New truck options

old abe

Well-known member
Last purchase I looked into getting an F150 max tow. Pricing them I found out for not much more I could get a Duramax HD with comparable options. Ford sure is proud of their F150's
And for good reason. You can spec a Ford truck out to your exact wants, and needs. None of the other Mfr's, Brands come any where close.
 

lofsfire

Active member
I very much like my 2018 F150, 3.5 Ecoboost, 10 spd, crew cab 5.5 box. I have a 7x23 inline (3 or 4 place if crammed) that I pull, also the pull the pontoon boat a couple times a year, ~5600 lbs, which is close to one of the trailer weights you mentioned but probably a lot more wind resistance. Pulls it great. Depending on the speed I am going, sometimes it will stay in 8th (I think the 1st overdrive) on the interstate, or on the state/county road speeds it will shift all the way into top gear (3rd overdrive) as long as there isn't a big headwind. I have bags to level the load, keep the headlights aimed like they should, and I air up the rear tires to near max when towing for increased stability. It doesn't sound like you need more than a 1/2 ton for your loads/usage, and you'd benefit from the improved fuel mileage of a 1/2 ton for every day driving, as it sounds like a diesel is not in the running. The solid ride and extra towing capacity of a 3/4 ton is nice, but again seems like 1/2 ton will do what you need to do.

Fortunately, you have time to do more research, and can wait for a "deal" on whatever you decide will work best for you.

Yeah, I can definitely wait till its the right time for me. What got me think about it was seeing some of the deals they were running. I was interested if the prices were just dropping or deal were coming back. I think its a little of both depending on what you are looking for... Since I have the time and don't have to jump on anything and since I tend to over research things... I figure it would be smart to have a good idea of what I want now rather than later.


Although I know you're not in MN we have a crazy law here on vehicle registrations that make going to a 1 ton a financially sound idea. Vehicle registration costs in MN are based on vehicle value except for 1 ton trucks or bigger. If I'd bought a 3/4 ton truck it would cost somewhere between $650-750/yr for registration. For my 1 ton its $100. We pay more to register our 2019 Subaru Crosstrek than we do our 2023 F350. Crazy law.
That is crazy, I could see that being beneficial to some. Ours is all based of value/ year of the vehicle. So as you own it goes down. Current plates for my truck will be $112 this year and my sons 2011 is $106. However, for my moms car which is a 2021 it will be $342
 

wiviperman

Active member
I made the jump back to Ford in June 2023, found a used 2021 F-150
Lariat 5.0 V-8 crew cab with way more options than just about any truck needs!
I’m pretty happy with it as I’m consistently getting 20 MPG highway with it unloaded.
I feel like one aspect of the truck that has been a real learning curve is the 10 speed trans, to me it’s slightly wonky…. not exactly bad, just different!
At times it holds gears & other times it downshifts & upshifts at different intervals (keep in mind that I run it in Tow/Haul mode to eliminate the cylinder deactivation).
The one option my truck does not have is the max towing, so mine has 3.31 gears.
I specifically chose the V-8 to avoid the turbos & cam phaser issues of the 3.5 eco boost V-6, I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time & have heard many horror stories about the 3.5 eco boost V-6.
Nowadays it doesn’t matter which brand that you buy, they all have issues. So, whatever that you choose, plan on buying the extended warranty & enjoy it!
I bought the extended warranty from a Ford dealer in Iowa (Granger) at a decent rate that covers the truck for 9 total years or 100,000 miles & the plan covers the LED lights & key fobs. The truck had 28,000 miles then & almost 40,000 miles now, so the bumper to bumper warranty from Ford wasn’t around long for me.
My thoughts are that the truck has the latest tech & that is pricey to repair or replace, I have already heard that the LED headlights have a daytime light that sometimes go bad, entire assembly costs $1600 to replace….that right there almost pays for the extended warranty!
 

old abe

Well-known member
I made the jump back to Ford in June 2023, found a used 2021 F-150
Lariat 5.0 V-8 crew cab with way more options than just about any truck needs!
I’m pretty happy with it as I’m consistently getting 20 MPG highway with it unloaded.
I feel like one aspect of the truck that has been a real learning curve is the 10 speed trans, to me it’s slightly wonky…. not exactly bad, just different!
At times it holds gears & other times it downshifts & upshifts at different intervals (keep in mind that I run it in Tow/Haul mode to eliminate the cylinder deactivation).
The one option my truck does not have is the max towing, so mine has 3.31 gears.
I specifically chose the V-8 to avoid the turbos & cam phaser issues of the 3.5 eco boost V-6, I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time & have heard many horror stories about the 3.5 eco boost V-6.
Nowadays it doesn’t matter which brand that you buy, they all have issues. So, whatever that you choose, plan on buying the extended warranty & enjoy it!
I bought the extended warranty from a Ford dealer in Iowa (Granger) at a decent rate that covers the truck for 9 total years or 100,000 miles & the plan covers the LED lights & key fobs. The truck had 28,000 miles then & almost 40,000 miles now, so the bumper to bumper warranty from Ford wasn’t around long for me.
My thoughts are that the truck has the latest tech & that is pricey to repair or replace, I have already heard that the LED headlights have a daytime light that sometimes go bad, entire assembly costs $1600 to replace….that right there almost pays for the extended warranty!
wiviperman, would you happen to know the name of your extended warranty policy provider? Just curious, thanks. I was never interested in purchasing extended warranties, until this game changing "high tech electronics" went crazy. Yeah it's really nice, until it fails then big $$$ o_O
 

lofsfire

Active member
I made the jump back to Ford in June 2023, found a used 2021 F-150
Lariat 5.0 V-8 crew cab with way more options than just about any truck needs!
I’m pretty happy with it as I’m consistently getting 20 MPG highway with it unloaded.
I feel like one aspect of the truck that has been a real learning curve is the 10 speed trans, to me it’s slightly wonky…. not exactly bad, just different!
At times it holds gears & other times it downshifts & upshifts at different intervals (keep in mind that I run it in Tow/Haul mode to eliminate the cylinder deactivation).
The one option my truck does not have is the max towing, so mine has 3.31 gears.
I specifically chose the V-8 to avoid the turbos & cam phaser issues of the 3.5 eco boost V-6, I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time & have heard many horror stories about the 3.5 eco boost V-6.
Nowadays it doesn’t matter which brand that you buy, they all have issues. So, whatever that you choose, plan on buying the extended warranty & enjoy it!
I bought the extended warranty from a Ford dealer in Iowa (Granger) at a decent rate that covers the truck for 9 total years or 100,000 miles & the plan covers the LED lights & key fobs. The truck had 28,000 miles then & almost 40,000 miles now, so the bumper to bumper warranty from Ford wasn’t around long for me.
My thoughts are that the truck has the latest tech & that is pricey to repair or replace, I have already heard that the LED headlights have a daytime light that sometimes go bad, entire assembly costs $1600 to replace….that right there almost pays for the extended warranty!
I'm going to have to give you a call. Some of my I exact same thoughts. The turbos were one of my concern with the new Rams hence another reason to start looking now...

I kind of figure if I rule out the 2500 now then that pretty much leads me to a 1500. Which means I have to make my decision sooner than later if I want a V8.

I have some bookmark saved on those warranties I've seen them both advertised for RAM and Ford out in that area... And I agree about all the high tech stuff... Normally, I pass on the warranties but it seems like it's getting harder and harder to do that... Honestly with what we're paying and the time frame these cars are lasting their standard warranty should be getting longer as well... IMO... But I don't see that happening...

When I bought my truck I did buy the warranty which was lifetime. While I have used it a couple of times it's been nothing major. Which I guess is good but at the same time I know I didn't get my money out of it. LOL but that's probably a good problem to have...

I have done some more research. One of the things I've been watching like I said is deals and I kind of wonder if some of the deals aren't due to the new inventory which is expected to go up this year. In doing so my research I also found an article talking about how manufacturers are actually talking about lowering MSRP prices due to some of this excess inventory they're expecting by the end of the year... So it'll be something to watch for a while...
 

wiviperman

Active member
wiviperman, would you happen to know the name of your extended warranty policy provider? Just curious, thanks. I was never interested in purchasing extended warranties, until this game changing "high tech electronics" went crazy. Yeah it's really nice, until it fails then big $$$ o_O
It’s the Ford Extended Warranty bought from Granger Ford out of Iowa, they have the warranty priced just above cost.
 

goofy600

Well-known member
You can get some really good deals on extended warranties, if you do your research. When I bought my truck last fall I already had prices so when dealer asked I had a price already and they beat that price. You also have I believe the whole 1st year to get the warranty without any extra cost to the warranty. This is Ram warranty I’m talking about.
 

bayfly

Active member
I have to say thanks I was pretty sure everybody was just going to say go with the bigger truck... 😂

Like I said I'm not jumping in anything right away but starting to do my research. That way the right deal comes along I can jump on it.

Also, I currently run airlift 1000s on my rear suspension. All the 1500s have coilover rear springs. Therefore, too much weight in the rear tends to sag them. The airbags took that away completely I only keep them at about 10 - 15PSI. Basically just helpers...

When towing the trailer I use a weight distribution hitch. The hitch I use is made by Anderson, it uses chains under tension instead of bars. Basically allows full movement and turns but still offers sway control and the weight distribution. However, going in the dips or really steep transitions you need to pay attention to what you're doing.
I switched to a 2500 to pull my trailer a few years back. I would never go back to pulling a fully loaded enclosed trailer in the UP winter with a 1500. it’s probably just my personal preference but I feel substantially safer with the 2500. I did not go with a diesel because I couldn’t justify the additional upfront cost. My advice is unless you intend to downsize your next trailer, strongly consider the bigger truck.
 

dpd43

Member
Ran an F150 across the northern 1/3 of the country pulling enclosed trailers and it was plenty capable. Have a 7x27 Legend that seemed to make the tranny run hot. Fuel economy sucked when towing as the 3.5Ecoboost with the 3.55 rear end worked hard. Best vehicle I have towed with to date. I did upgrade to an F250 with the 6.7L diesel but have not towed with it yet. If you don't tow frequently, the F150 is a fantastic everyday driver and a lot less spendy to operate and maintain than the big truck, I am anticipating the extra weight of the F250 will make the trailer seem less "pushy" in the wind. The bigger truck is awesome and I'm celebrating my midlife crisis with its purchase!
 

hermie

Active member
Lotsfire it sounds like you know what you are looking for. I will say that there is good advice on this post. I think it comes down to how much you tow. If you tow all year long the 2500 is most likely the way to go. I only tow here and there so I drive a 1500 and before that I drove an avalanche. I towed a 23' inline with the avalanche and it towed it just fine. I also don't try and set land speed records towing. I slow it down and leave room to stop. Use your best judgement and good luck with what ever you buy. Just remember they really don't seem to build them like they use too. I know on my 18 if you just lean on the truck the body panel will push in. My old trucks never did this. Kinda of sad
 

lofsfire

Active member
I know I have not responded this week, it's just been very busy... All is good just busy, both work and working on a fundraiser for my volunteer fire department.

Just not find anything I really like or got to have right now. That alone tells me to wait and take things slow. Like I said I'm a no rush. The bigger thing for me was getting some ideas of exactly what I needed and what I wanted... That way if a good deal came around I could jump on it. While I'm not 100% sure exactly what I want. I do have a much better idea. I think some of it'll come down to what deals are available as well.

With that said, I've also read many articles on how we're going to see a change with incentives, deals, and offers... I think with interest rates the way they are and vehicle inventory starting to come up. We're going to see some prices falling on cars in the future. I'm thinking it will be fairly noticeable by the end of this year.

Thanks for all the replies definitely giving me many things to think about.
 

pclark

Well-known member
Although I know you're not in MN we have a crazy law here on vehicle registrations that make going to a 1 ton a financially sound idea. Vehicle registration costs in MN are based on vehicle value except for 1 ton trucks or bigger. If I'd bought a 3/4 ton truck it would cost somewhere between $650-750/yr for registration. For my 1 ton its $100. We pay more to register our 2019 Subaru Crosstrek than we do our 2023 F350. Crazy law.
Sounds like California, sorry to hear that. We had friends move across the river to Hudson from St. Paul.
 

wiscrev

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Sounds like California, sorry to hear that. We had friends move across the river to Hudson from St. Paul.
Montana is extremely high since there are no taxes there. They go by the cost6 of the vehicle. When I lived there 92-96 one of my members was paying $1200/yr for his vehicle. I'm glad I had beaters then but still paid $200. Interesting note [don't know if it still applies], Montana only charges $50 for a motorhome.
 

Airman68

Member
Bought a nice 2008 Yukon XL a couple of years ago. Towed my old boat ok but my new boat is 5k lbs and it's not as good. The real downfall is the 4spd transmission. I think the comments about the 8 and 10 spd are worth considering. I have a buddy who has the 1/2 ton Silverado with the small duramax and I think the 10spd. He loves it. He's a farmer so he tows heavy a lot, skid loader and trailer. Will out tow anything easy and gets amazing mileage empty.
 
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