10 Ton Dozer goes through the Ice

chevytaHOE5674

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I wonder who thought it was a good idea to take a 20,000lbs JD 650 dozer out to clear a little snow off the ice....

A pickup with a plow and chains would have got the job done, or a small tractor.
 

ranlam

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Wow. Someone had to many Leinies. (leinenkugels). Betya that fine is around $1000/day thats a popular lake DNR all over that. Glad the guy got out of the icy waters.
 

renegade

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The word is he was using a skid steer and got it stuck and was using the dozer to get that out. A pick up won't do it anymore unless it has been plowed throughout the year. To much snow. He has 30 days to get it out before the fines hit. Was not a smart move having that dozer out there though. He has sunk stuff before and knows how to get it out. He also has done a ton of stupid behaviors like getting busted for drugs, among other things. I'm guessing he just doesn't learn well.
 

chevytaHOE5674

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If a pickup won't do it then you get a small tractor/skid steer with a blower or something. A 10ton dozer is way overkill for the job and is just asking to go through the ice.
 

anonomoose

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Actually if the ice was as thick as some said it was, the lake should have handled this weight rather easily. Of course we should all know that ice does not form nor maintain the same thickness everywhere. Pressure ridges, insulating snow, air/gas pockets all need to be accounted for. Clearly this fellow got a long way out on the water before hitting a problem (remember the horide series Ice Road Truckers?? that carried 100 tons of materials to the north slope??)

If you want a good dose of education on weight carrying capacities on typical ice go here >>> http://lakeice.squarespace.com/bearing-strength/

If things go wrong, even a plow truck can be too much. Ice kills more sledders each year than any other hazard out there.

Never assume you can get over it without stopping to think if the ice gives way what you are going to do. Unexpected break-thru and lack of preparations is what mostly takes a life. There is no such thing as completely safe ice either. Today it is good, and tomorrow it won't hold a man on foot.
 
The dozer was brand new and had 1 hour on it. Ouch! Wonder if insurance will pay for it...I'm guessing they had a "not covered for going through a frozen lake" clause in the fine print.
 

chevytaHOE5674

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I know if the ice is of uniform thickness then it would handle the weight. But since you have no way of knowing the thickness then putting a 10ton machine on it isn't smart.

On top of that is the fact that a dozer has all of its weight on narrow little cleats when on a hard surface and that when turning the tracks can bit into even the hardest surface (I've see a turning dozer tear through concrete), and then if you push the blade down you can put a large majority of the weight onto one single corner of the blade if you aren't careful.

UP in Canada on the Ice Roads they have crews of people that go out daily and drill holes and measure ice thicknesses as well as monitor for stress and pressure cracking. If conditions aren't perfect then they don't drive big rigs on them.
 

renegade

Active member
I wonder when they got it out? I drove by last night just before dark and didn't see any dozer. Where he went through I would say he was getting awfully close to the channel of the Chippewa River. I would think that could have something to with the thickness of the ice and why it broke through.
 
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