4 stroke vs e tec

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Treis

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Guys
I am In the market to upgrade from a 2009 Renegade with 5000 miles to a new/used sled. I am not aggressive but like to hang with guys at times. Trail rider in Wisconsin. Also about 40 percent of the time I have a passenger on with me either a 10 and under kid or a wife. I purchased the 2 up seat and back rest from a dealer last week. It works great!! I am leaning toward a gsx le or se.

I love the power of the e tec but would like some info on a four stroke and why they are being purchased over a e tec. Gas mileage is about the same right?

Thanks tom
 
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longtrack

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I have 3 1200's and they have way more power and torque than a 600 2 stroke. I change Oil once a year @ $40.00. My last Sled was a 600 Etek and it ran ok with some issues because it was a 09. Gas mileage is about the same with a 1200 or a 600 Etek unless you drive slow. Then the Etek is better. We double the mileage of a average Rider and the 4 strokes out last the 2 Strokes. Also you can put E10 in a 4 Stroke and not worry about it melting down.

I want my Wife to try a 900 but I do not think it will have enough power for her.

Bottom line is I have owned 20-2 Strokes and 3-4 Strokes and I have no plans to ever buy another 2 Stroke and all my friends that have Doo 4 Strokes feel the same way for Trail Riding. Mountains and deep powder riding is different.

I have a GSX LE and a SE plus a Grand Touring. If you ride Double go with the SE or a Grand Touring and the heated Seat is nice also.
 
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old abe

Well-known member
Bought 900ace renegade for my wife. Have been pleasantly surprised with this ride. I was concerned that it would not be capable in power or handling, but no such issues. It will not pull with the E-Tec 600 on the top end, but from 0 to 65/70 super hard pull. 65 to 90 it tappers off. Have seen 90 on both speedo and GPS. This was in farm fields, not groomed hard pack. I think many people will be surprised at how this sled performs. MPG looks to be 22 plus, another surprise. E-Tec will also get 20 plus MPG. Both very good choices. 900 not a high speed racer, but will be hard to beat on trail performance. Can,t wait to get this thing to UP and Canada!
 
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russholio

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I would concur with what longtrack said. He covered it pretty well so I can't think of anything to add. My 1200 doesn't get quite as good fuel economy as did my 600 SDI, but I don't have to feed it 2s oil so it probably works out to be similar in fuel costs. Ours are both 2013's so I have no plans to replace them anytime soon but when I do it sure won't be with 2-strokes again. I have seen the light! :)
 
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whitedust

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Not going to find a used Ace 900 just released so need to look a 600 Ace or 1200. 600Ace like a fan hp wise so that leaves doo 1200 which is aok for hp130ish 4s but don't buy without new e-drive clutch installed old tra clutch could not take the 4s broad powerband other than that good engine & sleds my eperience would be on GSX so go with 137 track for 4s hookup.
 
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russholio

Well-known member
Also...if you have time go on DooTalk and check our the 4s forum. Plenty of reading there to keep you occupied for hours!
 
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mustardbucket2

Member
I agree with what the others have said - the 1200 4 stroke is a great engine. We have a 2013 GSX LE and a 2014 MXZ both with the 1200. They pull stronger than the 600 SDI's we had previously, and no issues in 1000 miles. Don't have to add 2 stroke oil, so that is a minor savings. I don't see myself going back to a 2 stroke.
 
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