about Time Mich!!!!

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polarisrider1

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Pat, not to sure if the Gov. Is all to big on this idea. I will still wear a helmet. It keeps all my starting to gray hair in place.
 
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Firecatguy

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Everything I've read says he would consider signing it. He did say earlier that he wanted as part of a broad overhaul of the Michigan no fault insurance program.
 
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snocrazy

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I like the idea of having the choice. I do wear helmets when I ride but if I wanted to ride with ou it should be my decision.

Any one know what they are looking to change with the no fault bs insurance?

Lets repeal the seatbelt revenue generator too. Just got a seatbelt ticket last week on a dirt road doing 20mph. I was picking up trash on the side of the road as I went along getting in and out.
 
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Firecatguy

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snocrazy said:
I like the idea of having the choice. I do wear helmets when I ride but if I wanted to ride with ou it should be my decision.

Any one know what they are looking to change with the no fault bs insurance?

Lets repeal the seatbelt revenue generator too. Just got a seatbelt ticket last week on a dirt road doing 20mph. I was picking up trash on the side of the road as I went along getting in and out.
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this is the issue here I do not agree with the writer of this as my feeling are if you are hit by a car YEAP they should be liable for your medical bills and even a settlment for the rest your life......jeez lets just give people the right to run over bikers and get away with not paying attention!!!but any ways this is the isssue.......

"Last I read, Snyder will sign it if it's tied to reform of Michigan's unlimited medical coverage and that still hasn't changed so don't hold your breath. I also am against it if they don't get rid of the unlimited medical. Did you know, in Michigan, if a biker is in an accident with an automobile, regardless of who's at fault, the automobile's insurance pays the medical bills and rehabilitation for the rest of that persons life if necessary? And EVERY driver and rider in Michigan pays $145 per year, per vehicle, into the Michigan Catastrophic Claims Association to pay for all this unlimited medical coverage which is going up to $175 on July 1st. Now if you want to ride without a helmet, I don't care. But I do care if I have contribute to pay the lifetime medical bills if you survive. Michigan is the only state in the United States, probably in the world, that has unlimited coverage."
 
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Dave_B

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I don't want to stir anything up, just looking for your personal stance on this issue.

I don't ride bikes and, really, have never had an interest in it. I do know that, if I rode, I wouldn't leave the driveway without a helmet. I can understand the issue of it should be your choice and all that but, seriously, why would you want to take the chance of serious injury if something bad were to happen?

It just seems to be the opposite of all the helmet, Tekvest, etc conversations that go on regarding sledding on this site by alot of the same people.

Dave
 
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nytro_rtx

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Dave_B said:
I don't want to stir anything up, just looking for your personal stance on this issue.

I don't ride bikes and, really, have never had an interest in it. I do know that, if I rode, I wouldn't leave the driveway without a helmet. I can understand the issue of it should be your choice and all that but, seriously, why would you want to take the chance of serious injury if something bad were to happen?

It just seems to be the opposite of all the helmet, Tekvest, etc conversations that go on regarding sledding on this site by alot of the same people.

Dave
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Great question DaveB, I don't ride the street anymore and never rode without a helmet when I did.

I'm curious to the answers also on this subject, how many wear all the gear on a sled but not on your bikes and why? Just seems strange to worry about wearing all the stuff on a sled and not on the street where you have cars etc. etc.

Not looking for an argument either and it's your choice to make.
Have fun, be safe and enjoy your rides,
nytro
 
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mrsrunningbear

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Interesting topic, I am a helmet wearer and I am probably one that would wish everyone would wear one....But I do know that the law does effect tourism and the U.P. really needs all the tourism it can get. Many bikers stop at the line and head to another state because of this law. I had a conversation with Sally from Henry's in Rockland just last night about this and tourism was the main thing, she is hoping the law changes along with other business up here just because it will bring more people. Funny safety was never mentioned, just tourism
 
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Pizza Man

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It's a riders choice.
We were helmets all the time because we do long distance trips.
We have the J&M communicaters and listen to the radio, I Pod, talk to others, etc.
 
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xcsp

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Giving the people a choice is fine, but if you choose to go without a helmet then you should be the only one responsible for your medical bills in the event of a crash. No need to put the burden on others, much less your family & friends.


Hard to believe with the exellent technology in helmets and riding gear today that anyone would care to ride w/o a helmet and/or with only a t-shirt & blue jeans.

Live to ride!!
 
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Firecatguy

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so just so I have this straight.....you choose to not wear a helmet!!!!.....some **** nose decides txt on his phone "more important than a riders life" and runs a red light and runs said biker down......so said bike should be responsable for his medical bills cuz he had no helmet on?


I do find it funny how sum think a helmet is a save all!!!!!like a get out jail free card or something......


I have had the don't wear one or wear one thread This thread was more about the support of said bill!!!!!

this is the info we have shared thru my club and we back our fellow riders from Mich who choose to make this an CHOICE not a law...............

"" Michigans Helmet Choice Bill ( SB291) passed the Senate today, no Governor Rick Snyder needs to sign it so our Michigan Bro's can be helmet free! call Go.Rick Snyder and ask him to sign this into law 517-335-7858""Please Call and tell Him how you feel!!!

I really like to know who does or does not ride when they share their opinion on this thread......
 
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xcsp

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Firecatguy said:
so just so I have this straight.....you choose to not wear a helmet!!!!.....some **** nose decides txt on his phone "more important than a riders life" and runs a red light and runs said biker down......so said bike should be responsable for his medical bills cuz he had no helmet on?


I do find it funny how sum think a helmet is a save all!!!!!like a get out jail free card or something......
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You're right in that scenario that the person who "ran said biker down" should be held responsible.
I should have clarified to say in a single vehicle accident.


I agree that a helmet is not a save-all, BUT it definately can help minimize injuries in most crashes.

I ride with protective gear as I hear & read that head injuries, road rash and other injuries really suck!
 
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Firecatguy

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From Michigan Motorcycle Attorneys Website.. http://www.motorcyclelawyermichigan.com/11.html

"In order for anyone to be entitled to No-Fault Benefits (medical bills paid for life, 85% of your wage loss *, $20.00 a day for house hold chores, medical mileage, and attendant care) a "motor vehicle" must be "involved" in the crash. A "motorcycle" is not a "motor vehicle" as defined by Michigan's No-Fault Law. This is significant because a biker often is injured when there is not "motor vehicle" involved. Examples include: hitting an animal, loose gravel, pot holes, defective roadway, or another "motor cycle"; in each of these examples a biker would not be entitled to No-Fault Benefits."

A motorcycle is...NOT a motorvehicle...you must have insurance, yet you might not be able to collect from your insurance..and that is a damned shame.
 
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xcsp

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""A motorcycle is...NOT a motor vehicle...you must have insurance, yet you might not be able to collect from your insurance..and that is a damned shame.""

How was it determined a motorcycle is not considered a motor vehicle in Michigan?
Isn't it a vehicle with a motor? Must be politics involved with!
 
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kirk600

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Well me being one who has had to rely on the insurance of the automobile owner to pay.my lost wages and medical bills for 3 months. I support any increase. after a 16 year old kid turned into me while I was on my motorcycle 10 years ago I appreciate the help that was provided. The insurance also.covers accidents where motorcycles were NOT involved, but the medical costs are over a certain amount. I think it was.200,000 dollars.but don't quote me. Basically the state insurance steps in to carry some of.the expense so insurance companies.don't go broke.

Tying this to the helmet law you cut off your nose to protect.your hair..............
 
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ranger_dave

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without getting into all the pros and cons of if a whether or not a cycle rider should wear a helmet or not. if you won't go to a destination based on if you have to wear a helmet means you are missing a LOT of great riding spots. all of the west cost, canada, most of the southern states. i'll wear my helmet to go to areas based on where i want to go, not if i have to wear a helmet or not.
 
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