Yes I know Forest opener is always confusing with all the different clubs involved including 3 lakes on the northwest side. Best I can tell it is snowing in Crandon now not much in Rhinelander but storm was headed east & south of Vilas. I was considering a RT loop thru Long lake then back thru Hiles to Phelps. Difficult to get on trail reports from that area since not well traveled northwest Forest. Normally I would be happy go lucky riding Amasa area but not this year little snow north of Phelps so need to set new trail patterns south & east.