Candidate Physical Agility Test - Firefighters

polarisxcsp

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Question for you full time firefighters. Im heading down to Myrtle Beach in early January to test/interview for a full time job down there with the Myrtle Beach FD and I was looking for some input on the CPAT. I would consider myself to be in pretty good shape but I was looking for any input or advice that you guys have. Thanks
 

firez10

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This will be a little long but bear with me on this. I have taken a few CPAT’s and I will give you info on what to expect. Cardio is probably the biggest and mental preparedness will also help.

The following was a CPAT I took for a department that has supposedly the hardest one in the state. All of these physical tests were conducted in a time limit of 8 minutes for all of them to be completed. You were fully dressed in Turnout gear and had to wear an SCBA with your air on. Your time started once you turned your air on.

1st obstacle, take a 2 ½ hose line fully charged from one end of the fire house and extend it straight to a designated area marked by tape. This meant to take it from a looped state to an extended state and back to a looped state, usually 150’ out and 150’ back. Once you complete the evolution you go to the next obstacle.

2nd Take a 12 ft roof ladder off from the wall of the station positioned 6 ft off the ground and walk the ladder to the outside of station to a marked area. Raise ladder to working position and go up ladder and touch designated area. Descend ladder and do another evolution involving taking a 15 lb sledge hammer and hitting the end of a 6x6 piece of board that was anchored so it wouldn’t move. This was to simulate using an axe. You had to strike the 6x6 a total of 10 times and you had to swing this at a minimum of shoulder height. Once complete then take the ladder back down and take it back to the station wall. This was approximately 20 to 30 ft from where you set it up. When carrying the ladder you had to carry it using the trained method of butt end down, but not touching the ground. If the ladder touched the ground at any time during transport to the designated area you had to start over by hanging ladder back up and starting again from start including the sledge hammer swing.

3rd evolution was to carry a 2 ½ inch hose rolled up and carry it across a 4x6 inch beam 30 ft without falling off the beam. If you fell off you had to start over again.

4thevolution involved climbing through a 4 foot by four foot window. They had constructed a window that was on a stable stand that you had to climb through. It was approximately 4-5 feet off the ground.

5th evolution was carrying a high rise hose pack (100 ft of 1 ½ with a nozzle connected rolled up and roped together) up 3 stories in their hose tower. You could not run up the stairs just move quickly. Once to the top you had an area taped off that was 3 ft x 3 ft that you had to put the high rise pack down, do not throw it down. Then grab a rope that was on the railing and pull up a rolled 1 ½ hose hand over hand the full three stories. Once you get that to the top you had to pick the high rise pack back up and go down 4 stories to the basement and lay the high rise pack back down without throwing it.

6th evolution was to go through the darkened basement area using the left or right search technique to locate a 150 pound mannequin. Once you found the mannequin you had to carry the mannequin outside and up one story to the finish line. This was about 100 ft or so from start to finish. After getting through all evolutions and this one being last you were just flat worn out.

This all had to be completed in 8 minutes or less. I was 35 when I did this and apparently I was the oldest person that had applied at that time. I was able to complete all the evolutions with 7 minutes and 48 seconds. I had about 5 minutes rest time before I had to climb the aerial ladder of 150 ft. There was no time limit to climbing that and you could have your face piece off but that had to be the longest climb of my life. The on duty crew was there including the chief who had showed up to watch me complete this. Having the chief there was a big deal according to the crew because he usually didn’t come to these tests. All of the guys were encouraging me on to complete because they wanted to see the old man whip the young guns.

In talking with the crew they said that a lot of the guys that were in their early twenties didn’t even get to the 3rd or 4th evolution before quitting. My advice is to mentally prepare yourself and tell yourself that you will finish regardless of how long it will take. It was mid July when I took mine at 7:00 pm and temps were in the mid 90’s and humidity was also very high that day. I was spent when I was done and I went straight to Lake Michigan and took a long soak.

The other CPAT’s that I did were very similar and all involved evolutions that were timed. The above one was the only one that I did with that strict of a time limit.

Hopefully this will give you some idea of what to expect. Cardio and mental preparedness are the key things. Also calmness and determination will help and show how serious you are about this.

Let me know if you need any further info as I will share whatever I can. Were neighbors as I live just South of you in Laingsburg.
 

smitty440

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I have also taken the cpat here in Illinois. The biggest part is cardio as said above. The next part is your legs. The test we had the first station was on a treadmill for 3min and 20 secs at 60 steps a minute. You had to wear a 50lb vest with another 25lb on you. So a total of 75lb and you could not hold onto the railings. The next 7 stations were pretty easy. The second was dragging a 1 3/4 uncharged line I think 100'. 3rd station was a tool carry cutters edge( chain saw) and a K950 saw 100'. 4th station was hitting a sensor with a sledge hammer, usually took about 10 hits depends on how hard you hit it. 5th blacked out maze crawl. 6th ladder raise, 7th 180lb dummy drag. 8th was a simulation of a ceiling breach. I think you get about 9min and 30 seconds to finish the whole thing. I forgot to add the 50lb vest is worn throughout the test.

The biggest thing like I said before is cardio and your legs. One more thing pay attention to the instructions, because they will fail you for not following them.

I hope this helped

Pete
 

polarisxcsp

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Thanks for the info

Thanks for the info guys. Ive been working out almost everyday so hopefully Ill be in tip top shape to finish this thing in a respectable amount of time. I need to start working on my cardio side of things a bit more. Right now Im just running about 1.5 miles on the treadmill and riding the bike for about 15 minutes which is about 5.5 miles for me.
 

Dgoz

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go to sufd.org or cffjac.org they both have great explainations of the cpat i've never had to take it but the younger guys that i work with say it is harder than the old ff challenge
 

polarisxcsp

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Thanks

Thanks for the link. I found a good video off the sufd website. It was good to see how the test was laid out and what it all involved. As of right now I feel pretty confident about it. Thanks for the help guys...
 

Dgoz

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No problem give us an update after the test it makes me feel good when i hear about someone gettin hired full-time
 

yamahauler

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If you pass the physical portion, do they send you to do a psych test then?

Any of you firefighters have any info on what these psych tests entail?
 

Dgoz

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it varries from department to dapartment the ones that i have taken are about 15 min talking to a shrink a lie detector test and a 300 question test that is the same questions asked in different forms all are subjective to the person giving the test
 

Dgoz

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oh i forgot before the psych there is a written ff exam then after the psych there is an oral interview with the board and some senior officers
 

smitty440

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The psch test I had to take took about 2 hrs. A hour long interview with the psychologist and 3-4 different psych test. The interview seemed pretty easy the doc just wants a feel for what type of person you are. There were questions about family, activites you like to do, why you are joining the fire service, I can't remember the rest. As far as the tests one test was 250 questions with a statement and it was agree or disagree with the statement. The other three were timed tests I think to see how you handle under pressure.
 

polarisxcsp

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Hmmm....

Well, I talked with the FD earlier this week and she told me they had over 700 applicants. 600 of which were qualified, so they invited all 600 to the testing. As of 12/14/09 there had been 450+ people confirmed to show up for the 12 available jobs. But the closing date hadn’t gone by yet so she was guessing it would be around 475 people. As of right now I do not have my EMT license so I’m kind of questioning if I should even waist my time. I’m very confident that I can pass the written test and the cpat but I’m not sure my resume will be towards the top with no medical cert's listed. The job in Myrtle Beach does not pay as much as I make right now and its going to be kind of expensive to head down there so I’m not sure what I'll do.

I went today and talked with an academic advisor at the community college near me and I will be able to get into the EMT program this next fall (have to do it in the fall because that’s when the night classes are offered)
 

firez10

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That is a tough decision. I would usually say to go through with anyway as any experience you can gain through the testing process will help you for further interviews and tests.

Thats a hard decision to make. Whatever you decide good luck and we all look forward to hearing about your future adventures in public safety. I'll still be doing this job as long as I am physically able to!!!
 

firez10

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On a side note, I was one of over 700 that applied for LFD. Over 250 passed the written and we had 100 that passed the Cpat. There were 4 positions. In the end I was one of 10 finalists that made it to the end w/no medical at that time. I was offered but turned down the job as I was still finishing college at that time.

Did the same for Traverse City Fire, over 300 applied. I made it through to the end but didn't make the cut for the job, that one I wouldn't have turned down!!!!
 
It does sound like a hard decision, but in the job market today they are hiring and keeping their personnel. I know quite a few FF's in our area who are worried about being layed off. A friends son just quit there and came back to Mi to work for a FD here. He took that chance and it payed off. He had just has finished the academy and got the job. I don't think he was an EMT when they hired him. They will put you through their academy when they hire you so you may go through an EMT program there. What ever you choose to do good luck. There is no better profession!
 

fireman35

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You should go for the whole experience so you wont be a bit timid about it the next time and you would be suprised that they will hire you with out emt lic. you can get it on the job.some depts prefer that instead of someone coming out of a tech school. Good luck on whatever you decide
 
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