Hernia????

A few months back I was a work trying to move somthing when I slipped slightly and all of a sudden it felt like I got kick right in the family jewels. I notified the manager and filled out all the proper paper work for a work related injury. The pain went away after a few days so I figured that everthing was ok, The now when I am on my feet for any length of time it feels like someone is squeezing the boys and won't let go. I have gone to the Dr. and they felt it was a pulled muscle and should get better. I have none of what I think would be the standard symptoms.

Maybe I should put this in Tech talk

Any input would be apperciated
 

mezz

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skeeter, I am no doctor, so please take this as some helpful information which you should discuss with your physician. Your description of what you were doing & the discomfort you are experiencing is very similar to what I experienced while serving in the Army. I was lifting a rather heavy troop ramp on the rear of a personnel carrier when this happened to me. It feels at times that the boys are being pulled off while merely standing. The medical term is epididymitis (ep.i.did.y.mi.tis). An inflammation of the epididymis. This can occur when exerting yourself with a full or partially full bladder. Urine is forced into the epididymis which is "a system of ductules that emerge posteriorly from the testis" (semenal tract). It's not real serious, but very painful. If I remember correctly, it was treated with an antibiotic & an antiflamitory. It was a long time ago, but something I will never forget. I hope this helps.-Mezz
 
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The injury happened back in March and really never hurts unless I am on my feet or if I walk more than a short distance the other thing that seems strange is that it really doesn’t hurt when I lift things it seems more movement related. The Dr's thought it was a pulled muscle but you would think that after three months it would be a little better. I am planning on going back to the Dr this month but with work and vacations I really don't want to be layed up for a couple weeks if I need sugary. I was kind of hoping to hold off until August with it being a workman’s comp issue they could make it so that they would not allow me back to work if it is diagnosed as a hernia
 

mezz

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skeeter, as stated in my previous post, I experienced the same symptoms, exactly. I think you should discuss the possibility of the epididymitis with your doc, I believe this is the cause of discomfort (actually-pain). Some doctors may not even be familiar with it. If an Army P.A .can diagnose this, I am sure your doc can do a little research on it & provide you with the proper course of action. For me, it was treated with an antibiotic.-Mezz
 

bearone

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Thread

I remember a thread a couple years back about a guy who had a similar problem during snowmobile season and the posts were hilarious with his comments. Wish could find that thread. I think people were falling off their chairs laughing and the posts.
 

timmay75

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Not epididymitis...

Epididymitis can be caused by a urinary tract infection, sexually transmitted disease, or in older men, enlargement of the prostate, but I don't know where the information about "urine forced into the epididymis" came from. The duct of the epididymis uncoiled is 20 feet long. This is a separate system than the urinary system, but both sperm and urine leave the body through the urethra. What this all means is that you would pee yourself, not force urine backwards into a separate system! An inguinal hernia is a possibility, as part of the intestine can actually protrude through abdominal muscles into the scrotum, however, the doctor would have been able to diagnose this upon palpation. A muscle "pull" is actually excessive stretching or possible tearing. This can take a long time to heal.
 

revman

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I've had epididymis before, and it sounds much the same. I don't think it has anything to do with urine either, but it does feel almost exactly like what you are talking about. I took anti-inflamitory and it got better with time.

REVman
 

mezz

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Epididymitis can be caused by a urinary tract infection, sexually transmitted disease, or in older men, enlargement of the prostate, but I don't know where the information about "urine forced into the epididymis" came from.

This is what was explained to me by the treating PA at the time, I could only go by what was being relayed onto me by my Warrant Officer. All I can say is, it was very similar to skeeters description of both what he was doing & what his discomfort level was & continues to be. As was stated, he should discuss the possibility of this being the problem, by no means was it meant to be a diagnosis. Considering I had lifted a 450lb troop ramp by myself when I felt this pain, how could I say different. Irregardless of what I was told "how" it occured, Epididymitis is a pain that a guy will never forget. Nonetheless, I hope he can come to a conclusion on the issue & get the proper course of treatment.-Mezz
 

ubee

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Epididymitis


Epididymitis is a medical condition in which there is inflammation of the epididymis (a curved structure at the back of the testicle in which sperm matures and is stored). This condition may be mildly to very painful, and the scrotum (sac containing the testicles) may become red, warm and swollen. It may be acute (of sudden onset) or rarely chronic.

Epididymitis is the most frequent cause of sudden scrotal pain. In contrast with men that have testicular torsion, the cremaster reflex (elevation of the testicle in response to stroking the upper inner thigh) is not altered. If the diagnosis is not entirely clear from the patient's history and physical examination, a Doppler ultrasound scan can confirm increased flow of blood to the affected epididymis.

Infection is the most common cause. In sexually active men, Chlamydia trachomatis is the most frequent causative microbe, followed by E. coli and Neisseria gonorrhoeae. In children, it may follow an infection in another part of the body (for example, a viral illness), or there may be an associated urinary tract anomaly. Another cause is sterile reflux of urine through the ejaculatory ducts. Antibiotics may be needed to control a component of infection. Treatment otherwise comprises pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs and bed rest, if necessary, and symptom control by resting the scrotum in a supported position.

Contents [hide]
1 Classification
1.1 Chronic epididymitis
2 Signs and symptoms
3 Causes
4 Diagnosis


[edit] Classification
Epididymitis can be classified into acute, subacute, and chronic, depending on the duration of symptoms.[1]

[edit] Chronic epididymitis
Chronic epididymitis is epididymitis that ensues for more than six weeks. Chronic epididymitis is characterised by inflammation even when there is no infection present. Tests are needed to distinguish chronic epididymitis from a range of other disorders that can cause constant scrotal pain. These include testicular cancer, enlarged scrotal veins (varicocele), and a cyst within the epididymis. As well, the nerves in the scrotal area are connected to those of the abdomen, sometimes causing pain similar to a hernia (see referred pain). This condition can develop even without the presence of the previously described known causes.

In a typical scenario, a second, longer round of treatment is used. It is believed that the hypersensitivity of certain structures, including nerves and muscles, may cause or contribute to chronic epididymitis. A procedure called a cord block is a last measure. This consists of an injection into the nerve that traces along the epididymis. The injection is a compound of several medications including a steroid, pain killers, and a high dose of an anti-inflammatory. This treatment can quell the pain for 2–3 months in ideal conditions. Some patients may only experience an even shorter duration of 2–3 days, whereas the fortunate ones in rare occasions are never bothered again. This procedure would, of course, have to be repeated when necessary, until the problem goes away completely, or until the routine is simply too bothersome. As a last resort, a patient may then decide to have the epididymis completely removed.

[edit] Signs and symptoms
Epididymitis usually presents with gradual onset of pain of testicular pain or pain of the epididymis. The testicle may be warm and/or red.

[edit] Causes
A bacterial infection is the most common cause of epididymitis.[1] The bacteria in the urethra back-track through the urinary and reproductive structures to the epididymis. There can be associated urethritis (inflammation of the urethra). In rare circumstances, the infection reaches the epididymis via the bloodstream.

In sexually active men, Chlamydia trachomatis is responsible for two-thirds of cases, followed by Neisseria gonorrhoeae and E. coli (or other bacteria that cause urinary tract infection). Particularly among men over age 35 in whom the cause is E. coli, epididymitis is commonly due to urinary tract obstruction.[2] Less common microbes include Ureaplasma, Mycobacterium, and cytomegalovirus, or Cryptococcus in patients with HIV infection. E. coli is more common in boys before puberty, the elderly and homosexual men.

Non-infectious causes are also possible. Reflux of sterile urine (urine without bacteria) through the ejaculatory ducts may cause inflammation with obstruction. In children, it may be a response following an infection with enterovirus, adenovirus or Mycoplasma pneumoniae.

Epididymitis can also be caused by genito-urinary surgery, including prostatectomy and urinary catheterization. Congestive epididymitis is a long-term complication of vasectomy.[3][4] Chemical epididymitis may also result from drugs such as amiodarone.[5]

[edit] Diagnosis
Epididymitis can be hard to distinguish from testicular torsion. Both can occur at the same time. A urologist may need to be consulted.

Epididymitis usually has a gradual onset. On physical examination, the testicle is usually found to be in its normal vertical position, of equal size compared to its counterpart, and not high-riding. Typical findings are redness, warmth and swelling of the scrotum, with tenderness behind the testicle, away from the middle (this is the normal position of the epididymis relative to the testicle). The cremasteric reflex (if it was normal before) remains normal. This is a useful sign to distinguish it from testicular torsion. If there is pain relieved by elevation of the testicle, this is called Prehn's sign, which is, however, non-specific.

Analysis of the urine may or may not be normal. Before the advent of sophisticated medical imaging techniques, surgical exploration was the standard of care. Nowadays, color Doppler ultrasound is the preferred test. It can demonstrate increased blood flow (also compared to the normal side), as opposed to testicular torsion. Nuclear testicular blood flow testing is rarely used.

Additional tests may be necessary to identify underlying causes. In younger children, a urinary tract anomaly is frequently found. In sexually active men, tests for sexually transmitted diseases may be done. These may include microscopy and culture of a first void urine sample, Gram stain and culture of fluid or a swab from the urethra, nuclear acid amplification tests (to amplify and detect microbial DNA or other nucleic acids) or tests for syphilis and HIV.

[edit] Treatment
Antibiotics are used if an infection is suspected. The treatment of choice is azithromycin and cefixime to cover both gonorrhoeae and chlamydia. Fluoroquinolones are no longer recommended, because of the resistance of gonorrhoeae.[2] Doxycycline maybe used as an alternative to azithromycin.

For cases caused by enteric organisms (such as E. coli), ofloxacin or levofloxacin are recommended.[2]

In children, floroquinolones and doxycycline are best avoided. Since bacteria that cause urinary tract infections are often the cause of epididymitis in children, co-trimoxazole or suited penicillins (for example, cephalexin) can be used. If there is a sexually transmitted disease, the partner should also be treated.

Household remedies such as elevation of the scrotum and cold compresses applied regularly to the scrotum may relieve the pain. Painkillers or anti-inflammatory drugs are often necessary. Hospitalisation is indicated for severe cases, and check-ups can ensure the infection has cleared up. Surgery is rarely necessary, except, for example, in those rare instances where an abscess forms.

[edit] Complications
Most cases with adequate treatment develop no complications and do not result in infertility. Untreated, acute epididymitis can lead to a variety of complications. These include chronic epididymitis, abscess, permanent damage, or even destruction of the epididymis and testicle (resulting in infertility and/or hypogonadism), and infection may spread to any other organ or system of the body.

[edit] Epidemiology
Epididymitis makes up 1 in 144 outpatient visits (0.69 percent) in men 18 to 50 years old or 600,000 cases in men between 18 to 35 in the United States.[1]

It occurs primarily in those 16 to 30 years of age and 51 to 70 years.[1] There appears to be a recent increase in incidence in the United States that parallels an increase in reported cases of chlamydia and gonorrhe
 

mezz

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More from TECH TALK Epididymitis
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Epididymitis


Another cause is sterile reflux of urine through the ejaculatory ducts. Antibiotics may be needed to control a component of infection. Treatment otherwise comprises pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs and bed rest, if necessary,

Holy moly ubee, you get an "A+" for your homework, Nice job. Probably TMI for some, but, the man asked for some help. I knew my memory recall was not off. I thank you for the supporting research.-Mezz former SP4, 91B Combat Medical Specialist 1/67th 2AD, Fort Hood, TX :eek:
 

ubee

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I'am not a doctor but stayed at the new hotel in Twin Lakes !! lmao!
 

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skeeter, I am no doctor, so please take this as some helpful information which you should discuss with your physician. Your description of what you were doing & the discomfort you are experiencing is very similar to what I experienced while serving in the Army. I was lifting a rather heavy troop ramp on the rear of a personnel carrier when this happened to me. It feels at times that the boys are being pulled off while merely standing. The medical term is epididymitis (ep.i.did.y.mi.tis). An inflammation of the epididymis. This can occur when exerting yourself with a full or partially full bladder. Urine is forced into the epididymis which is "a system of ductules that emerge posteriorly from the testis" (semenal tract). It's not real serious, but very painful. If I remember correctly, it was treated with an antibiotic & an antiflamitory. It was a long time ago, but something I will never forget. I hope this helps.-Mezz


This is hilarious, I had epididymitis two weeks after I returned from Iraq. The doc dianosed the reason for the discomfort was due to my over exposure of spending "Quality" time with the wife!! The pain was worth it though.
 

freezinbevr

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a cute?

Ubee,
"This condition may be mildly to very painful, and the scrotum (sac containing the testicles) may become red, warm and swollen. It may be acute (of sudden onset) or rarely chronic."

Your calling Skeeters' scrotum a cute?? Boldly gone where no man (in print on this thread) has gone before!

OK- gotta go to work.
 

ubee

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A Freezinbevr might know the pain of northern childbirth but not the acute pain of a red swollen scrotum
 

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