i might have discovered GLOBAL WARMING CAUSE

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it would seem that its NOT the atmosphere after all...but the iron core of the earth....its making the poles flip....making the sink holes appear...and getting closer to the crust making the continents and earth warmer as a whole and the mainstream scientists are thinking its us and the sky.....ITS NOT....its the earth/nature and below....here....have a lookski for yourselves...what say you?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...field-flip-could-happen-sooner-than-expected/
 

mezz

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Yeah, right! Anyone who buys into that, I have some lake front property in the Mohave Desert with a suspension bridge over that lake to sell you.:rolleyes:-Mezz
 
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Wyelde

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I am a big believer in Climate Change, Climate Change has been happening since the Earth was formed. Multiple Ice Ages, multiple tropical periods, sea level going up and down by hundreds of feet, that has all been documented pretty well. However, I'm much less convinced that our current climate change is really due to Man made causes as the politicians and environmentalist alarmists would have us believe. It is interesting that this article talks about the decreasing magnetic field and how it lets more solar radiation through. But, it doesn't say anything about that effect on Climate change. To me, it would be logical that if we are receiving increased solar radiation to the surface, that would mean increased heat, or climate change. It just seems to me that a 5% decrease per decade could have more impact than cow farts from beef cattle.
 
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It is interesting that this article talks about the decreasing magnetic field and how it lets more solar radiation through. But, it doesn't say anything about that effect on Climate change.

yes I agree...and I don't know why they don't link the 2 together...they always treat them as separate events instead each one effecting the other one...and its probably a combo of the increased radiation and the iron core blob coming closer to mantle in areas and coming up higher than in the past....but yet all this is on a cyclical cycle....ice...hot...ice...hot....no man made....but I think the core is driving it the most and warming the planet faster along with flipping the magnetic field....this is where the flood and flood stories of past come into play....the field flips....the arctic becomes the tropics for a while and vice versa.....the flood happens...people die...some live...and another book gets written...same story...different author....just a thought
 

frnash

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… Climate Change has been happening since the Earth was formed. Multiple Ice Ages, multiple tropical periods, sea level going up and down by hundreds of feet, that has all been documented pretty well. However, I'm much less convinced that our current climate change is really due to Man made causes as the politicians and environmentalist alarmists would have us believe. … To me, it would be logical that if we are receiving increased solar radiation to the surface, that would mean increased heat, or climate change. It just seems to me that a 5% decrease per decade could have more impact than cow farts from beef cattle.

Yes! To butcher a phrase from Bill Clinton: "It's the Sun, stupid!" :cool:
 
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Yes! To butcher a phrase from Bill Clinton: "It's the Sun, stupid!" :cool:

you see that's the thing....its NOT the sun....and you might want to click on that link and read the part about the earths magnetic field and the core are the reason for warming.....PS....CLITON used the word stupid rather loosely and you might not want to use that especially not clicking on a link :cool:

this is why it SEEMS like the sun but its not.....this in the first link




The field exists because Earth has a giant ball of iron at its core surrounded by an outer layer of molten metal. Changes in the core's temperature and Earth's rotation boil and swirl the liquid metal around in the outer core, creating magnetic field lines.

The movement of the molten metal is why some areas of the magnetic field strengthen while others weaken, Florberghagen said. When the boiling in one area of the outer core slows down, fewer currents of charged particles are released, and the magnetic field over the surface weakens.


with this being the KEY.......Changes in the core's temperature (aka....GLOBAL WARMING)


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http://phys.org/news/2014-05-earth-magnetic-field-important-climate.html
 

frnash

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you see that's the thing....its NOT the sun....and you might want to click on that link and read the part about the earths magnetic field and the core are the reason for warming.....PS....CLITON [sic] used the word stupid rather loosely and you might not want to use that especially not clicking on a link :cool:

Okay, I suppose you could say I used the word "stupid" rather loosely, as did "CLITON" [sic] (Was that deliberate, or were you using that term, er… name "loosely", as well?) :p

I'm quite well aware of the origin and characteristics of the Earth's magnetic field.
No, I was not attributing the "Global Warming", a.k.a. "Climate Change" to the Earth's magnetic field, but to the solar cycle(s), evidence for which is quite abundant.

Having said that, and seeing as you're a relatively "new kid on the block" I guess I'm now obliged to present my "short dissertation" on that subject (It's probably still somewhere on this site from several years ago, but I won't make you search it out.), to wit:
"Global warming", or more precisely "Climate Change" has been occurring for millennia, cycling through a variety of "warm cycles" and "ice ages" even for millions of years, and those cycles will continue to the end of time.

These cycles have been enhanced
to a very minor degree by occasional cataclysmic volcanic eruptions, which even for their monumental short-term contribution to periods of "global cooling", have been but minor "ripples" in the overall scheme of things.

But is any significant part of it due to "anthropogenic" climate change (due to some human activity)?

IMHO any human contribution to the entire equation is miniscule at best.

As is the chance of affecting the grand scheme of things by some of the extreme and costly efforts, such as restricting the use of "fossil fuels" and "carbon sequestration" which are being promoted by the most vocal wingnuts, have as much chance of ameliorating the situation as a "fart in an F5 (Saffir–Simpson hurricane wind scale) / EF5 (Enhanced Fujita Scale) hurricane", or moving beach sand with a million man army equipped with teaspoons.

To butcher a line from Bill Clinton:
"It's the Sun, stupid!" — A complex set of inter-operative solar cycles, the effects of which are clearly revealed by geology and related disciplines such as Paleoclimatology and Dendroclimatology as well as other scientific means.

See also this "List of periods and events in climate history", for some pretty good graphic depictions of climate history including many well before the first humanoids crawled out of the caves and discovered fire.

Human influence? Yeah, like a snowball's chance in Phoenix!

See also:

From Global Warming.org, January 27, 2012: Coming Out of the Climate Change Closet, by Matt Patterson, quoted here in part:
“So much for consensus.

For years, climate change cultists have attempted to shut down public discourse over global warming by assuring us that “the debate is over,” that scientists are in lockstep agreement that Man is steam-frying his own planet.

That was always bunk, of course. For one, if the scientific debate was really over, no one would have to say it. There just wouldn’t be any debate. No one these days goes around saying “the debate is over” about heliocentrism. That’s because no one questions the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun – there is literally no debate.”
While on the subject, I must also point out the long standing absurdity of the many claims of "ozone pollution" from automobile exhaust emissions. Either such claims are pure unscientific BS, or are made by folks who can't even get the terminology right.

(click →) Ozone is nothing more than O[SUB]3[/SUB], (also known as "Trioxygen"), and is not a "pollutant", in fact it is a disinfectant, deodorant, swimming pool and spa sanitizer, and is used in many hospitals around the world to decontaminate operating rooms between surgeries.

In fact when I had my tonsillectomy some 60+ years ago, my hospital room had an ozone generator above the door for a similar purpose. Some pollutant, eh?

I may not be a professional climatologist, but with a Bachelor of Science in Mathematics, I am far more of a "scientist" than that sad, pathetic clown, Mechanical Engineer and self-designated "Science Guy" (and improbable bosom buddy with Neil deGrasse Tyson?!) with the bow tie and two dozen patents for… er, um… Ballet shoes?!
 
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Wyelde

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Well said Frnash. It is a mystery to me how politics control the climate change issue rather than Science. The cynical part of me would say, that this is an effort to create an illusion that we humans have the ability to prevent what is happening. Maybe this is better than scientists coming out and saying that our climate is going to change and there is nothing we can do about it, that mean temp is going to increase, and sea levels are going to increase to the point where all our coastal cities will be underwater. If this is the case, I can see where there would be a big incentive to prevent panic, and mass movements of populations to higher ground.
 
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CLITON was on purpose...will be known as worst president ever in future...just like Andrew Jackson and some other presidents...only NAFTA and MONICA...and GAS....and a WAR not won...and so on and so on....DO NOTHING BILLY....his rein will be like the roaring twenties and the stock market crash...which he did that too....and wall street...and let Bernie Madoffs rule the land for years....BILLY's PONZY PRESIDENCY


and NOTHING in this entire thread or what I posted has or had anything to do with man causing it...so not sure why you brought it into discussion...I was saying its NOT man....its NOT the sun...and its NOT ozone....and its not CFC's...and its not pollution...and so on

was saying it MIGHT be the center of the earth....where NOONE is looking for warming to take place...makes more sense that the core effects this cycle than any other event....let me translate for ya's

the core...which is a molten blob that oozes around like a lava lamp blob....every 750,000 years it blobs closer to the mantle....this has 2 effects....one is it warms the globe and melts the ice....the other....the core changes the magnetic field....north flips to south...AND the sun can shine through the field easier....which warms the globe 2x plus the core is 4x...hopefully....you and everyone else including climatologists and scientists and greenies....ALL NEED TO LOOK IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION and quite crowing what your crowing because it isn't even close to the cause of GLOBAL WARMING


hows that

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heres HOW the field flips

PS...man not involved

http://www.livescience.com/2897-earth-magnetic-field-flip-flops.html
 
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