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Is 9,000 miles alot for 2006 Yamaha Apex?
- Thread starter Spider
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Miles on the motor, no I wouldn't worry. Miles on the sled, 9000 on a suspension is still 9000 on a suspension. Look it over real good. Check the boggies and rails. Make sure to find out all the other guy did to it and go from there. I personally wouldn't be afraid of it as long as you look it over good, and price Ya snow is starting to fly so price is right there. You might be able to talk him down a couple of hundred.
mark_e_hastings
New member
It might also be ready for a track, with that many miles the track might still look good, but the track clips are probably warn out. the are only 2 bucks a peace, bit it is a long time consuming process to cut the old ones off and install the new ones. It will probably need bushing in the suspension and the clutch might need to be rebuilt. Also the shocks are probably blown out unless they have been replaced. That is about all I would worry about. Other than that it should be a pritty solid ride, but that seems a bit steep for a sled with that many miles on it unless it has had all the things that were mentiond in this thread already updated. Make a list and ask questions when you go look at the sled.
G
G
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There are sleds with 1000 miles on them that are trashed. With proper care and maintenence there is no reason the sleds we have today cannot go many more miles than 9000. As has been stated, you probably don't have to worry about the engine. To ad to the list of things to look at check the front A-Arm bushings and check the steering for excessive slop and wear. If I were even to consider a high mile sled I would certainly want to speak with the previous owner. Ask if the exhaust donuts have been replaced also. When you consider a new Apex will be about $12000 with tax and everything else the price isn't that bad IF it has been taken care of. However if you buy it and put on another 4000 miles you will be married to it until it dies completely.
Just looked at an Apex with 9,000 miles yesterday but the amount of miles scare me. Is this too many miles? Sled is priced at $4500. Is this a good price?
Take a good look at the Y pipes on the exhaust. They are titanium and are prone to cracking around the 5000 mile range. They're also quite expensive. Don't ask how I know.
Regarding price and other issues with the sled, check out the Totally Yamaha site.
Good comments & you should check all the things metioned. Price not too bad but ask what has been done to sled up to this point. Donuts had to be replaced but when & is Y pipe & track Ok? 9000 miles on engine is no problem but listen to it run if you can't test ride. You can replace track with iceripper & would be a good upgrade. If GT make sure ohlin ec solonoid works & front shocks are not trashed & steering front end bushings are tight. Also see if mono spring has been changed to siffer spring 06 was a bit soft. Some guys take very good care of sleds some don't. He may have taken good care of sled & discounted due to 9,000 miles. If in good shape worth every bit of $4500. Any YES warranty left?.. doubtful but ask.
as a former apex owner, i will say this. Miles, for the motor that is nothing. For the chassis it is a lot. 4500 is probably a fair price for the amount of miles if the sled is mint. I wouldnt pay anymore for it than that. like has been said before you can get one with half the miles for about 5k. Look it over closely, and check the exhaust donuts
Miles
Your question really is " is this to many miles "..mmmmm
Well...... I think me and the BoyZ do a fair bit of riding here in Michigan.
Think we run about a average of about 1300 miles a year which seems to be about 8 to 10 rides for the snow season. Which is pretty good since while I sled...... the wife is normally work'n..mmm Good Deal Huh ?? LOL
Do the Math !!
Should be some deals on sleds out there that are newer !
BR
Your question really is " is this to many miles "..mmmmm
Well...... I think me and the BoyZ do a fair bit of riding here in Michigan.
Think we run about a average of about 1300 miles a year which seems to be about 8 to 10 rides for the snow season. Which is pretty good since while I sled...... the wife is normally work'n..mmm Good Deal Huh ?? LOL
Do the Math !!
Should be some deals on sleds out there that are newer !
BR
SuperTurboDiesel
New member
No, it's not a good deal. The owner is "dumping" it now before it needs EVERYTHING to be rebuilt on it. A sled with 9,000 miles on it is like buying a car that has 200,000 miles on it. Of course it will still run, and operate, but it's going to need a TON of work and money put into it, either right away, or shortly.
For example, if a car cost $20,000 new, you'd only be paying about $1,500 for it with 200K on it. Well, with that same logic, wouldn't you would only be paying about $700 for the sled!
Ok, but regardless, I guess you could afford the "gamble" if you got the sled for around $2,000. I sure wouldn't be giving any more than that for it!
On the other hand, if he can PROVE with receipts that it has a new track, completely rebuilt suspension (front and rear), all new bearings throughout, and a freshend motor, then you are talking a darned good deal at $4,500. We all know that isn't going to be the case. Run away from this "deal" as fast as you can. It ain't no deal!
I'd definitely buy something else. Cripe, for $4,500, you can buy a "brand new" leftover or a fairly newer used machine with low miles from a lot of dealers. Because the winters have sucked and the economy is in the toilet, my local dealer has been basically "giving away" new leftover sleds with no miles on them over the past two years.
For example, if a car cost $20,000 new, you'd only be paying about $1,500 for it with 200K on it. Well, with that same logic, wouldn't you would only be paying about $700 for the sled!
Ok, but regardless, I guess you could afford the "gamble" if you got the sled for around $2,000. I sure wouldn't be giving any more than that for it!
On the other hand, if he can PROVE with receipts that it has a new track, completely rebuilt suspension (front and rear), all new bearings throughout, and a freshend motor, then you are talking a darned good deal at $4,500. We all know that isn't going to be the case. Run away from this "deal" as fast as you can. It ain't no deal!
I'd definitely buy something else. Cripe, for $4,500, you can buy a "brand new" leftover or a fairly newer used machine with low miles from a lot of dealers. Because the winters have sucked and the economy is in the toilet, my local dealer has been basically "giving away" new leftover sleds with no miles on them over the past two years.
booondocker
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Is there a way to tell if the shocks are shot without a test ride?
Thanks for all the good info everyone!! This was my first post on the johndee.com and am very pleased with all the help thanks again everyone. And thank you John D!!!
Mr. Hastings is pretty much on target with this...and I just removed from my watch list, an apex that did not bring 4k, on ebay. It had far few miles too, but can't remember where it was...nor do I know where you live. (hey, get that profile updated, will yah??)
With that many miles, I would assume that if they were NOT already rebuilt, that they WILL need to be rebuilt soon, if not NOW. Depending upon the shocks on there.
Also, I like to chuckle a bit when I hear everyone pass on the engine as if it is bullet proof. As we all know, they are pretty good, but it very much depends upon how it was serviced, whether or not the flipper was pinned more often than not, and just like a motorcycle, one machine will differ from another. It surely is NOT a given that the engine will last indefinitely. Things age, as well as wear...
I am not trying to talk you out of the sale, as this issue is as much personal as it is anything else, location of the sled, how it was cared for, what was replaced, did it get banged up...lugs missing, bumps to the underside etc, all enter into the equation.
As in anything else mechanical, do your homework, find out ahead of time about the issues of THAT year on THAT make from this forum and the TY forum, and make an intelligent decision and then hope it was the right one.
There are lots of these machines out there so study up and try and find a good one. One thing is very sure, that is, if you pay $4500 AND you have to sink a bunch of money into it right away, you definitely didn't get a good deal. My two cents.....
mjkaliszak
New member
I would question the seller about what he replaced during that 9K of riding . There should be some reciepts or a valid shop that had completed the work.We ( my son & I ) put a fair amount of miles on per year, ( 3K + for an average ) and every year I spend $ & time on maintenance. I can list sled by sled what items wore out and what broke and what we replaced. Usually, belts, case oil, chains, tracks, hyfax,plugs, windshields,boogey's ect. I'm sure of this because my wallet is thin ( about this time of year ) and I tend to utter more swear words than normal. I agree with doing your " homework " you don't want to buy a sled that someone poorly maintained. Just my .02 !