Is Tempa Flow worth the money on a 2008 Polaris 600 Carb Sled??
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I'm interested in what you learn about this...I've considered it myself for my Fusion 600 (probably the same engine). Most of the info I've found on the internet is fairly old, probably because carbs aren't too popular anymore! Anyway, I was looking more at the attac, which is similar but costs a little more, but I'm curious as to what you find out. I was thinking maybe I should call the manufacturer directly (holtzman engineering), as they seem to be a small shop in Eagle River, WI, but I haven't gotten around to it.
I have seen them for sale at gobigparts.com, in the slp catalog, and also from Goodwin performance, but I haven't spoken with anyone who has used one, for a before and after story. Anyway, if you learn anything about the tempa flow or the attac, please post it on here. Thanks.
I installed it on my 2003 Polaris XC800, and I loved it. When I went on a 7 day trip up in Canada, it proved its worth. Rode with a couple 600's and another 800. We were all carbed, and we all rode at the same rate. I would use about 2 gallons of fuel LESS than the other guys on 90 to 100 miles of riding.
I have had one on a 01 XCF for 5 years now. The engine is far from stock and very sensitive to temperature changes. I would have to change jets and mess with the needles everytime I would ride it. With the tempa flow I have never changed jetting, sled runs good warm or cold.
addrenjunky
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Worth its weight in gold! ROA in a season easily.
1flatlander2
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i like mine
D.B. Cooper
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I installed and ran HOLTZMAN's ATAAC (The upgraded version of the Tempa-Flow) on (5) EDGE sleds, 2 of which were mine, and the other (3) rode in our group.
Takes less than an hour to install with basic tools.
Product does everything it claims, more responsive, better mileage, didn't change needles or jets from the U.P. to YELLOWSTONE.
Order it direct from Barry Holtzman in Eagle River. When you call up he personally answers the phone. REAL knowledgeable guy to talk to.
When you go to sell your sled, you can remove the Holtzman set-up and save it for your next ride.
You other guys that have installed this...did you do the tempaflow or the attac. Was it as easy to install as Kraven says (sorry for questioning you Kraven, but I know you know your way around a sled much before than the average guy). I personally get a little nervous messing with the carb, etc.
D.B. Cooper
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This may help you make your decision
The (2) parts from Holtzman fit into the palm of your hand.
Those (2) parts need to be mounted INSIDE your air box and you need to drill 2 holes for that.
Then remove the LID only from the top of your Mikuni carb (either one, doesn't matter)and drill a hole and install the fitting supplied by Holtzman. That will be your vacuum source that POWERS the system.
No need to remove or dis-assemble either carb!!!
Well, that makes it sound pretty darn easy.
D.B. Cooper
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If I can get to where one of the EDGE sleds are, I'll gladly take some pics and post them up here.
I just don't have any pics here at the moment.
D.B. Cooper
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I'm running a CFI 2007 DRAGON 700 now, and I'm here to tell you that my ATAAC EDGE-X 800 was WAAAAAY more responsive than my current ride.
ATTAC, BEST $ 250 mod on a carbed sled, PERIOD!
snowdance
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So what's the difference between the Tempaflow and the Ataac? From what I saw the Ataac automatically adjusted for altitude changes and the Tempaflow it's a manual adjustment. Am I correct?
I think you're right. But I had the same question...if you get the tempaflow, and then go West, is it an easy adjustment, or something you don't want to deal with and would be better off buying the ATAAC even if you don't go out there.
D.B. Cooper
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ATAAC
Automatic
Temperature
And
Altitude
Compensator
From U.P. to 8000' didn't even fiddle with the needles.
Spend the extra few $$ for the ATAAC. (Tempa Flow is for temp ONLY, NO adjustment for altitude)
Jet the sled for minus 20* F and YOUR LOWEST BASE ELEVATION, and you're done!
Typically , you can use POLARIS jetting info from your owner's manual for that.
You can take it off and re-sell the ATAAC when you go to sell the sled
zstro - I called Holtzman. Guy was helpful. Might be good to give him a call.
My original goal was to avoid rejetting if/when we went West, but it sounds like you'd still have to rejet since range, as Kraven said, was 8,000 ft. Holtzman said it might work fine out there, but they only guarantee that it will work through a 8,000 ft. range.
My original goal was to avoid rejetting if/when we went West, but it sounds like you'd still have to rejet since range, as Kraven said, was 8,000 ft. Holtzman said it might work fine out there, but they only guarantee that it will work through a 8,000 ft. range.
sledaddict73
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Kraven700:
First, thank you for all the helpful information! I am in the process of replacing my intake boots and rejetting to go out to Wyoming in three weeks. It sounds like the ATAAC would be an awesome modification to make so I don't ever have to take my airbox off and mess with the carbs ever again! One question though: if I ride out west above 8000', how is that going to effect the performance of this system? Will it introduce the potential for engine damage? If my logic is right, I would assume that the higher I go, the sled would just run rich as it the ATAAC would not be able to compensate for the leaner air condition by reducing fuel. That seems like it wouldn't cause issues necessarily. I can always blow a call into Mr. Holtzman for clarification. BTW, I am not a huge gearhead so I think I could get this mounted in my airbox but I just want to be on the safe side. Thanks again! Dan
First, thank you for all the helpful information! I am in the process of replacing my intake boots and rejetting to go out to Wyoming in three weeks. It sounds like the ATAAC would be an awesome modification to make so I don't ever have to take my airbox off and mess with the carbs ever again! One question though: if I ride out west above 8000', how is that going to effect the performance of this system? Will it introduce the potential for engine damage? If my logic is right, I would assume that the higher I go, the sled would just run rich as it the ATAAC would not be able to compensate for the leaner air condition by reducing fuel. That seems like it wouldn't cause issues necessarily. I can always blow a call into Mr. Holtzman for clarification. BTW, I am not a huge gearhead so I think I could get this mounted in my airbox but I just want to be on the safe side. Thanks again! Dan
D.B. Cooper
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You'll be fine, run the ATTAAC and never look back
Follow the installation instructions and if in doubt call Holtzman direct,
He'll either personally pick up the phone, or he'll call you back same day.
He's NOT a salesman, the ATAAC does everything it advertises!
Don't forget to go approx 4 grams lighter on your weights for out West, stock springs & gearing should be OK.
you're goal is to run the same RPM as when it's at low elevation
outrageous
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I installed the attac system on my 4 stroke Yamaha and it works great. The attac will compensate for altitude and temperature. If you set it up in your home region, this will be your baseline for fuel. It will only take fuel away,(lean out) and will never add fuel (richen) more than your baseline jetting. But even when riding in your local region, it will compensate for warm weather. One thing to remember, If you stop and take a break while ridding, the heat build up under your hood can cause the system to lean out somewhat and it will take a little time to recalibrate once you resume riding. Just take it a little easy for about a short mile and it will recalibrate and be fine.