Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

thunderstruck88

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SENEY -- The Seney National Wildlife Refuge attracts an estimated 88,000 visitors annually and is home to countless animals, everything from bald eagles to black bears. One section of the refuge got a little makeover today, a controlled burn with a purpose:

"To prevent invasive species from getting a stronghold in it and also to reduce the amount of brush that's grown into it. Supposed to be an open wetland," explains Gary Lindsay, Fire Management Officer for the refuge.

Plumes of thick, white smoke filled the air as the nine acre fire burned for about an hour Monday afternoon. This section of open wetland hadn't seen fire in 75 years.

"When we write the prescription to light these fires, you have to have a certain amount of parameters: temperature, relative humidity, wind speed, wind direction that have to be in place before we're allowed to light the fire," says Mark Vaniman, Refuge Manager.

For all that info, they called on the expertise of National Weather Service Meteorologists.

"The Weather Service is here today really to test out our equipment just in case a bigger fire does pop up somewhere in the U.P., we'll be ready to go," says NWS Meteorologist, Kari Fleegel.

When you consider that the entire refuge includes 25,000 acres of wilderness, nine acres isn't all that big. But today's burn also offered an educational experience for a local school.

"This is an easier burn. Most of the effort in this one is setting up to allow the school group to be adjacent to the burn," says Lindsay.

It was a pretty cool field trip for a lucky group of third and fourth graders from Three Lakes Academy, an environmental education charter school in the town of Curtis. They were right on the front lines for the burn, learning the advantages of planned fires on-location.

The burn was a sucess, and the Seney National Wildlife Refuge remains open to tourists.
 

booondocker

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That's a good question!

While there is no doubt that some animals (bird nests, etc) perished in this fire, eventually some good might come of this from the changes this fire will bring. Pine cones that need fire to release seeds, and the green the nitrogen will bring.

prairie chickens need open country too.

But I have also seen these fires set with all the right indicators for wind temps and humidity and the fire gets away from them and really does some damage. The Mio area a bunch of years ago took out a bunch of cottages in a "controlled burn".

Personally this burning to try and control invasive species of weed seems like a pretty drastic measure.
 

thunderstruck88

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i just learned something tonight did not know pinecones needed fire to relase there seeds thank you boondocker for that new insight for me THINK SNOW + ROCK + ROLL + FUDGE:p
 

snow_monkey

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There are a number of new invasive species of plants in Michigan. They are posted on the Dnr website. I had a nasty vine last year that almost killed two young trees Black Swallow-Wart. This vine was nasty and tied up these trees quick. The state parks in Michigan have a plan in place to reduce the numbers when found.
 

michaeladams

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i live in southeast wisconsin in the heart of the kettle morain state forest and they burn every year so we don't ever have one of those good old fashioned wildfires.if you never log or burn ocasionally you get what they get out west.did you know that if a national park starts on fire they let it burn till it's done all by it's self.
 

booondocker

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i live in southeast wisconsin in the heart of the kettle morain state forest and they burn every year so we don't ever have one of those good old fashioned wildfires.if you never log or burn ocasionally you get what they get out west.did you know that if a national park starts on fire they let it burn till it's done all by it's self.

They used to fight these fires with little effect. Eventually the fire stopped areas simply grew bigger and burned harder.

Least you don't know, the fire season starts often by lightening strikes and burns all summer long until the winter snows put them out. Since they began allowing the fires to burn under some control, the fires they do get have gotten smaller in most cases and as they burn an area which then becomes a fire break for the next few seasons...

If the DNRE is going to burn every time an invasive species gets going, they are going to be very busy people.

Once we learn how to stop the importation of this stuff, it will be the first day of the end of some of this happening. Until then...get used to it.
 
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