KLIM jackets
I have the KLIM Tomahawk. Good jacket, but it can get a little cold sometimes on the coldest of days, 15F or below. You have to layer up with an extra layer, which is the way they are designed. The Valdeez has the new Comfort Mapping Technology which means it has insulation in areas of the jacket where the body seems to lose more heat while riding. I have the KLIM bibs with the Comfort Mapping Technology and they are nice. They too get cold on the coldest of day, but if I throw a good base layer on, I am good to go and still keep much of my mobility. You can't go wrong with the GoreTex. KLIM has some of the best out there. Either way you go, i think you will be happy. I would like to hear more about the KLIM Valdeez jacket. I have been thinking about the Valdeez or the Klimate for next year.