M6 141 out west?

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sledheadM6

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Ok my ? is how well will my M6 141 do out west.I have a trip planed to go to the snowies in late feb and just woundering how will this sled will do in the deep snow all stock with a 2.25 in track.Also any recomendations on where to stay.We would like to ride right from where we stay.Right now we are looking at Mt medow cabins for 80 bucks a night for a cabin for 3 guys.
 
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cuzzinolaf

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sledheadM6 said:
Ok my ? is how well will my M6 141 do out west.I have a trip planed to go to the snowies in late feb and just woundering how will this sled will do in the deep snow all stock with a 2.25 in track.Also any recomendations on where to stay.We would like to ride right from where we stay.Right now we are looking at Mt medow cabins for 80 bucks a night for a cabin for 3 guys.
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You'll be fine with the stock track. Is it the Attack or Challenger? I think your Mountain Meadow plans are perfect. You'll need to bring in all of your food to cook or head down to Centennial for dinner. Bring extra gas cans too. Snowy Mountain Lodge is closed and Mountain Meadows doesn't sell it as far as I know.
 
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jmom800x

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Check out Ten Mile Inn, Wyoming. It is on the west side of the range. A little extra driving but, the snow is more plentiful on the west side and it is also less tracked.

There are some videos, great powder and riding right from the cabins and also links to accommodations on MomsMotorSports.Com. We typically go to the Snowys twice each season. PLUS, they have GAS and FOOD on the west side.......
 
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sledheadM6

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Cuzz.It is a challanger track. I only ask because last year was my 1st season on this sled and did well in on flat land in the deep but had some trouble in the U.P climbing some big hills with 3ft of powder on it had some trenching issues.I am by no means a big hill climber I mostly like to play in the open meadows and bowls but I still need to climb in and out of play areas.I only plan on changing weights in the clutch to ride out there.I have it setup rght now from 0 -3000ft but have set for 3-8000 should i get weights for above 8000 or will the 3 to 8 work?

Jmom800x.Thanks for the info I will look into ten mile.
 
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skeedoo

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Also i second moms... ten mile inn/Saratoga has more snow and less sleds. You will like both area's, can't go wrong
 
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cuzzinolaf

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sledheadM6 said:
Cuzz.It is a challanger track. I only ask because last year was my 1st season on this sled and did well in on flat land in the deep but had some trouble in the U.P climbing some big hills with 3ft of powder on it had some trenching issues.I am by no means a big hill climber I mostly like to play in the open meadows and bowls but I still need to climb in and out of play areas.I only plan on changing weights in the clutch to ride out there.I have it setup rght now from 0 -3000ft but have set for 3-8000 should i get weights for above 8000 or will the 3 to 8 work?

Jmom800x.Thanks for the info I will look into ten mile.
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Challenger track is a decent track. It isn't a Powerclaw but it will be good enough for ya. I know there was some rear suspension relocation bracket people used to help with trenching... but don't know anything about it.

I would get weights for 6-9k or 9k+. You don't "need" to change your helix but it would be nice if ya had one. Let me know the weights you need and I'll see if I have them. I had two M6s and a 2008 M8 before I bought my 2010. I think I have a helix too.
 
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mezz

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If this helps any, I am taking my x-fire 6 to Tog in Feb, I have extended it to a 144" with 2" Challenger Track. I did some asking around between dealer & those whom have been there & was told that 60 gram weights for 9,000 & up. The M6 & Cross 6 are basically the same sled. I was also told, no need for helix change, but if you want to tweek it for Max, get the helix.
Cuz, Ezra or anyone else whom might have a good idea on this thought for clutching weight, in light of the fact that I have gone from 136" to 144" & the M6 is a 141", do you think I should consider 58 gram weights due to the extra rotating mass, or is that splitting hairs? I don't really need to be making "high marks", then again, with the 6, probably just look dumb trying, I just want to be sure I am going with the right stuff.-Mezz
 
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skeedoo

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Your sled will do fine out west. I ride my Renegade 137" with a 1.75" lug out west. Last year we had epic snow's in Colorado, 68 inches in 4 days and my sled did awesome. Few things to remember when riding mountains/powder... Always stop facing downhill, keep your momentum up - don't tap the throttle like, braaap, braaap, braaap - keep that thing moving. Only ride what your comfortable with, na screw that... thats boring, push your sled and abilities to the limit thats why you went west!!!
 
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techsledder

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mezz said:
If this helps any, I am taking my x-fire 6 to Tog in Feb, I have extended it to a 144" with 2" Challenger Track. I did some asking around between dealer & those whom have been there & was told that 60 gram weights for 9,000 & up. The M6 & Cross 6 are basically the same sled. I was also told, no need for helix change, but if you want to tweek it for Max, get the helix.
Cuz, Ezra or anyone else whom might have a good idea on this thought for clutching weight, in light of the fact that I have gone from 136" to 144" & the M6 is a 141", do you think I should consider 58 gram weights due to the extra rotating mass, or is that splitting hairs? I don't really need to be making "high marks", then again, with the 6, probably just look dumb trying, I just want to be sure I am going with the right stuff.-Mezz
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Call Tog direct and ask them to patch you into their rental shop. They rent M6's. The guys in the shop will be able to tell you the "sweet spot" for clutching your AC for Tog's elevation/conditions. Maybe Carter will see this and have a recommended dude to talk with from the shop. They are very helpful guys!
 
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mfire8

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Dont get it any sled will do fine out west its just how well you ride it. Btw the m is for (mountain) just clutch it correct and ride. If you plan on pulling 2'000 foot pulls then you should think of going to a 174 J/k. The sled will be fine.
 
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sledheadM6

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Ok so i just checked the extra weights I have and they are marked 669/60 so I am guessing these are 60gram weights???

Cuzz.I might be intrested in the helix but not for a few more weeks got deer season and xmas crap to buy lol.Let me know if you got one and how much.
 
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cuzzinolaf

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sledheadM6 said:
Ok so i just checked the extra weights I have and they are marked 669/60 so I am guessing these are 60gram weights???

Cuzz.I might be intrested in the helix but not for a few more weeks got deer season and xmas crap to buy lol.Let me know if you got one and how much.
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I'm not sure which one I have. Find out the one you need from under your sled and PM me with it. I'll check then.
 
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thebreeze

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The sled will work fine. It wont be putting down the high mark on the hills, but should get around well. Get the proper clutching, and go from there.

The factory recommendations for 9000 ft. plus are 60 gram primary weights part number 0746-669. Primary spring - yellow white part number 0646-229.

Now for the secondary. You want the stock 36 degree helix part number 0648-765. And the White secondary spring part number 0648-693.

If you have not messed with your clutching since buying the sled, you likely have the 36 degree helix, and the proper springs in there already. If that is the case, all you will need are the 60 gr. primary weights.
 
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mezz

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The clutch has not been messed with at all, just maintained, so the stock springs & helix are there. I appreciate your input. I am not nor have I ever been into trying to squeeze more out of a sled than what they were designed to do out of the box. As stated earlier, I was wondering about the weight issue in light of the fact that I had extended it from 136" to 144". Thanks again.-Mezz
 
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thebreeze

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If anything, I would bring the next lightest stock light tip weights(58's i believe), just in case you are still under revving once up above 10000ft. Once you feel the lack of power at that kind of altitude, I bet you will want to get EVERY LAST OUNCE of power out of that 600. Even the 800's are a disappointment up that high if you are used to riding at 1000 ft.

The main difference between the crossfire and M is the gear ratio. This will slightly affect the amount of weight needed in the primary to pull the proper rpm's. Lower gearing typically requires slightly less weight in the primary, as the secondary clutch is torque sensing, and with lower gear ratio, the secondarly "sees" less torque feedback, allowing the secondary to shift out faster, which lowers RPM's.

I agree that the helix change is not NECESSARY, but it does help with holding proper RPM's, and gives better backshift than the 44/40 that comes stock in the crossfires.

I may have a 36 degree helix laying around that I could send down the road for cheap.
 
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