MI and the Line 5 Showdown

chords

chords

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Mi has revoked the Line 5 easement for the pipeline running thru the Mackinaw Straits and has a deadline of shutting it down on Wed 5/12. Enbridge says that aint gonna happen without a court order. Enbridge does not have the most stellar record ( Kalamazoo River - 1 million gallons of crude spilled out ) or reporting damage to Line 5 from anchor strikes and old age since the 1950s.

Millions of people in America and Canada depend on Lk Huron/Michigan for clean drinking water and all the other resources that includes. All the safety plans in place and crews on standby they may have are not gonna be able to contain any kind of leak/spill of the 2 million gallons a day that flows thru it. And any plan would be useless for weeks/months when the Straits are froze over. Its a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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russholio

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Millions of people depend on that oil for their energy needs, too......including, but not limited to heating their homes. So is it better to put it on trucks, rail cars, and boats, and risk overturned tankers, derailed trains, and spills from boats (e.g., Exxon Valdez)? There is no easy answer or solution.
 
chords

chords

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Yeah idk. I wonder how the other 47 states in the US get their heat/energy needs met. By risking overturned trucks/derailed trains or risking 60 yr old pipelines thru their water supply ? That line could rupture anytime. tick tick.
 
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russholio

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chords said:
Yeah idk. I wonder how the other 47 states in the US get their heat/energy needs met. By risking overturned trucks/derailed trains or risking 60 yr old pipelines thru their water supply ? That line could rupture anytime. tick tick.
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Do you really think that overturned (and often burning) tankers, rail cars, and spilled tankers cause no damage or pose no threat? Or tha Line 5 is the only pipeline in the country? For the first time I agree with MP. Nobody is saying Line 5 doesn't carry risks....but there is NO method that doesn't carry risks.
 
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euphoric1

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:cower: WHAT ARE WE THINKING???? Just what this country needs uuuuugghh!!! I guess I just don't get it :cower: to all the nature/environment yahoo's why don't we take away EVERYTHING that is a potential environmental hazard and then lets look what we have, I mean c'mon folks haven't we destroyed enough jobs? driven up cost of goods and essentials enough? this crap has to stop somewhere and I know my next comment not related completely to post but AMERICA NEEDS TO GET BACK TO WORK!! ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!
 
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whitedust

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I received an online survey for electric snowmobiles. What did I think about the electric technology would I purchase an electric snowmobile? Interest levels were from zero on up all my responses were at zero absolutely no interest in an electric snowmobile what so ever! Locations where we all snowmobile hardly have cell and internet service electric vehicle charging facilities maybe available by the turn of the century. Lol Electric snowmobiles would be a HUGE BUST imo.
 
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Northstar

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You have more leverage pushing the "Green New Deal" with $5 or $6 a gallon gasoline then at $2.40 a gallon like it was at the beginning of the year. Look what a temporary interruption to a pipeline on the east coast did already to the price of gasoline. Not saying that Line 5 does not need to be replaced with the age and many un-supported sections. But they had a plan and a time line to implement the replacement. Why not work to get that done instead of spending time and resources in court.
 
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Midwest Player

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whitedust said:
I received an online survey for electric snowmobiles. What did I think about the electric technology would I purchase an electric snowmobile? Interest levels were from zero on up all my responses were at zero absolutely no interest in an electric snowmobile what so ever! Locations where we all snowmobile hardly have cell and internet service electric vehicle charging facilities maybe available by the turn of the century. Lol Electric snowmobiles would be a HUGE BUST imo.
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Electric snowmobiles are already here. Good luck finding a charging station.
https://taigamotors.ca/snowmobiles/

 
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katden4

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They will have a place in the market for sure, just not my garage yet! I do think 10 years or less they will be everywhere.
 
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Hoosier

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whitedust said:
I received an online survey for electric snowmobiles. What did I think about the electric technology would I purchase an electric snowmobile? Interest levels were from zero on up all my responses were at zero absolutely no interest in an electric snowmobile what so ever! Locations where we all snowmobile hardly have cell and internet service electric vehicle charging facilities maybe available by the turn of the century. Lol Electric snowmobiles would be a HUGE BUST imo.
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Yeah not sure how that works unless you are tooling around on your property or on a short trail ride.
 
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