OIL SPILL....BIG spill, little DAMAGE...results in

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Professor PC

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just a little snippet....seems the EXXON spill was far greater after all now dont it.....heres the key part like i was tellin ya's....i wait to stand corrected by the resident numbskulls....this am gonna be good

Yes, the spill killed birds — but so far, less than 1% of the number killed by the Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska 21 years ago. Yes, we've heard horror stories about oiled dolphins — but so far, wildlife-response teams have collected only three visibly oiled carcasses of mammals. Yes, the spill prompted harsh restrictions on fishing and shrimping, but so far, the region's fish and shrimp have tested clean, and the restrictions are gradually being lifted. And yes, scientists have warned that the oil could accelerate the destruction of Louisiana's disintegrating coastal marshes — a real slow-motion ecological calamity — but so far, assessment teams have found only about 350 acres of oiled marshes, when Louisiana was already losing about 15,000 acres of wetlands every year.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202,00.html#ixzz0vHCR4HgP


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202,00.html
 
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dcsnomo

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Professor PC said:
just a little snippet....seems the EXXON spill was far greater after all now dont it.....heres the key part like i was tellin ya's....i wait to stand corrected by the resident numbskulls....this am gonna be good

Yes, the spill killed birds — but so far, less than 1% of the number killed by the Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska 21 years ago. Yes, we've heard horror stories about oiled dolphins — but so far, wildlife-response teams have collected only three visibly oiled carcasses of mammals. Yes, the spill prompted harsh restrictions on fishing and shrimping, but so far, the region's fish and shrimp have tested clean, and the restrictions are gradually being lifted. And yes, scientists have warned that the oil could accelerate the destruction of Louisiana's disintegrating coastal marshes — a real slow-motion ecological calamity — but so far, assessment teams have found only about 350 acres of oiled marshes, when Louisiana was already losing about 15,000 acres of wetlands every year.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202,00.html#ixzz0vHCR4HgP


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202,00.html
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Well, then, that's a relief that it's all OK. I feel so much better for the 11 families whose husbands and fathers died in the explosion, and for the thousands of small business people who are being wiped out due to this disaster.

And you're counting birds.
 
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Professor PC

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you funny

The scientists I spoke with cite four basic reasons the initial eco-fears seem overblown. First, the Deepwater oil, unlike the black glop from the Valdez, is unusually light and degradable, which is why the slick in the Gulf is dissolving surprisingly rapidly now that the gusher has been capped. Second, the Gulf of Mexico, unlike Alaska's Prince William Sound, is very warm, which has helped bacteria break down the oil. Third, heavy flows of Mississippi River water have helped keep the oil away from the coast, where it can do much more damage. And finally, Mother Nature can be incredibly resilient. Van Heerden's assessment team showed me around Casse-tete Island in Timbalier Bay, where new shoots of Spartina grasses were sprouting in oiled marshes and new leaves were growing on the first black mangroves I've ever seen that were actually black. "It comes back fast, doesn't it?" van Heerden said.


theres ONE.......DOH

the people needing money is a joke...what a bunch of pansies we have become....we believe anything they tell us....some more than others eh DC
 
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dcsnomo

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My issue is that you stated "little damage" in your title. I disagree with you on that, as 11 people are dead, billions of market cap value has been lost to investors, small businesses are suffering, people have lost jobs, and thousands of people have become victims of this disaster. And of course, there is the ongoing environmental issue.

I understand your point that the environmental damage so far is less than feared, less than the Exxon Valdez. Since you have cited a credible source (Time Magazine) I will give you that point and accept the credible source.

But, debate has rules, just like football. One of the rules is that if you cite a credible source I can use it, and since you claim it is credible you must accept what I find in your source. That is, you cannot just say "this part of my source is credible, but this part over here is not." So, this is from your source (Time Magazine)

"The Deepwater Horizon explosion was an awful tragedy for the 11 workers who died on the rig, and it's no leak; it's the biggest oil spill in U.S. history. It's also inflicting serious economic and psychological damage on coastal communities that depend on tourism, fishing and drilling."

C'mon PC, this is a disaster. Thanks for bringing the Time article forward, I was not aware of that perspective on the environmental damage. But let's not forget that 11 people are dead and thousands are suffering.

It is not "little damage"
 
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whitedust

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Wait a minute environmental damage & mess is not over until it is over way too soon to be conclusive. Coast Guard & BP staying in place until they have real agreed upon conclusions & a better handle on the oil polution. They are finding oil six feet down on shoreline beach sand & don't know how to clean that up yet. The well has not been top killed & sealed so what has really changed? Just theories quoted by scientists saying maybe this is what happened. Truth is they just don't know yet so not over until it is over.
 
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whitedust

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Here is the flipside taking issue with the Time artical so big deal you post, I post, someone else posts shared info which is good but not conclusive by any means.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upsho...utraged-over-reports-of-oil-in-gulf-vanishing

Truth is they just don't know yet so not over until it is over..... chill my man PC & wait until we know more. Nobody wants this mess to go away more than me. I luv that area but this oil spill has & continues to cause envronmental damage plain & simple. The total scope is STILL unknown.
 
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xcr440

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Very interesting findings.

By reading these stories, which there will be more, there are two sides to this yet.

How far off the coast was the Exxon Valdez? Because findings are both "fair" and "bad" on this "spill" that there is a greater chance of the oil being in many different places at once in the gulf, vs. the concentrated location of the Alaskan spill in relation to shore lines.

The Valdez spill was pretty much "on shore" as it ran aground vs. the Horizon in the gulf, is 52 miles out and a mile down. Perhaps, having a greater distance to "dispurse" has given the impression in some places, that it is not as bad as reported in some regions vs. other places reporting oil, across the gulf region.

These two stories suggest both.

(Not even going into to the human and economic factors by any means with this "hypothesis")
 
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favoritos

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Not to mention the future of oil exploration and how that will be used to manipulate the price of oil in our future.

The economic impact has barely begun . . .

This well has been on worldwide media from the beginning.

I hope the environmental damage is less than they had estimated. I also can assure you that a reality like that, will not make much press.
 
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thunderstruck88

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I don't believe anything the GOVERNMENT says anymore to us all they do is LIE, LIE LIE I feel bad for the families of the 11 that got killed out there NO ONE wants to bring that up Dscomo I see that you brought that up and I applaud you on that RIP and may THIS NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN !!!!
 
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anonomoose

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I love the "minimalist" observations given this high pressure leak that ran 90+ days without stop.

Just because you can fly over the place and look down and don't see an oil slick, and

Just because only few animals and fish died and floated to the shore, and

Just because new pencil reeds push thru the oil stained shoreline is hardly reason to say that this leak was trivial. The full effects won't even be able to be gaged for years.

The long term effect is what everyone who has a brain should be concerned with....as we know that this crude is both toxic, and spawns cancerous tumors on nearly everything that it touches.

If you eat sea food, you should be highly upset because as this works thru the system (aka food chain) and the government in it's hast to get the fishing industry back rolling again, will put food on the table that other scientists will test and after long deliberation we will find out that "it ain't safe" to eat.

This minimalist assessment is fools paradise....nothing more. And more than eleven people will die indirectly from this "leak". And countless animals and plants will become sick and die...long term.
 
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snobuilder

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I think PC was simply pointing out how wrong the adenda supporting propoganda press was with there doom filled predictions day after day.

This disaster os NOTHING compared to the disaster at our southern border where more ppl die on a daily basis than the oil spill and it never gets talked about due to the agenda filled press in our country.

Look at the environmental impact of the miles and miles of disgaured items strewn about in the desert by the smugglers.
 
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Professor PC

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snobuilder said:
I think PC was simply pointing out how wrong the adenda supporting propoganda press was with there doom filled predictions day after day.

This disaster os NOTHING compared to the disaster at our southern border where more ppl die on a daily basis than the oil spill and it never gets talked about due to the agenda filled press in our country.

Look at the environmental impact of the miles and miles of disgaured items strewn about in the desert by the smugglers.
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yes SNOBUILDER and do you see how staunchly everyone jumped on me....that shows how much influience the media has over all the MOO'ers, no matter how wrong they are....everyone who was mad as he!! and as doom and gloomed it say....

MOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
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98panther

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"" i wait to stand corrected by the resident numbskulls....this am gonna be good ""

biting my tongue on this one, idi...
 
xsledder

xsledder

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Just like Enron, the housing bubble, etc..., the Feds will come up with the wrong solutions as a result of this issue.
 
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