Roof shoveling revisited...

[snobuilder]

Well with all of the snow in the northern 1/2 of WI this year I can see where roof shoveling might not be a bad idea.
I saw at least 10 roofs totally collapsed this weekend while riding and also on the drive to and from.

They ALL had one thing in common....they were ALL pole barn type structures!......So much for the idea that the snow will slide right off the metal roof, eh?....even saw one go down right here in SE WI.

 

[Midwest Player]

If it happened a few hours later kids would have been in the school. Where are the administrator's brains to let a snow pack build up like that. I had my roof shoveled twice this year.
http://www.mininggazette.com/news/2019/03/partial-roof-collapse-closes-hancock-schools/

 

[snobuilder]

If it happened a few hours later kids would have been in the school. Where are the administrator's brains to let a snow pack build up like that. I had my roof shoveled twice this year.
http://www.mininggazette.com/news/2019/03/partial-roof-collapse-closes-hancock-schools/

That looks like personnel would actually have had to get up there to shovel....probly not a good situation either. The article said it was shoveled 3 wks ago as well....ma nature wins again.

Either way.... stay outtchur old self-engineered upnorth pole barn if she is loaded folks!....LOL

 

[old abe]

That looks like personnel would actually have had to get up there to shovel....probly not a good situation either. The article said it was shoveled 3 wks ago as well....ma nature wins again.

Either way.... stay outtchur old self-engineered upnorth pole barn if she is loaded folks!....LOL

Yep, Morton makes a big difference! Big! Seen many pole buildings damaged one way, or another. Roofs gone/down, blown apart, blown down, and the Morton still standing, minor damage if any. Costs more, but it's worth every penny. Just compare the steel used for proof. Morton steel will not tear apart as the others steel will. Morton only uses the highest grade lumber. My experience.

 

[WorkHardPlayHrd]

Lots of the sheds that went down up here came from Menards. They had 9 ft on center spans, and the lumber is cheap. Center third of the neighbors went down, and it was a narrow steep roof too.

 

[old abe]

Lots of the sheds that went down up here came from Menards. They had 9 ft on center spans, and the lumber is cheap. Center third of the neighbors went down, and it was a narrow steep roof too.

Yep, you get what you pay for, Morton engineering is tops!

 

[Cirrus_Driver]

Lots of the sheds that went down up here came from Menards. They had 9 ft on center spans, and the lumber is cheap. Center third of the neighbors went down, and it was a narrow steep roof too.

Interesting you should say that.....the shed that went down in the 90's on Fisher Lake (northern Iron Cty) was a Menards shed kit (metal) we built. That thing twisted up like a pretzel. I rebuilt with reinforced trusses.

 

[snobuilder]

No doubt there are big differences in pole barn quality.
All my stuff is stick built on slab. I have been questioned "why not a pole barn?....they are cheaper". ...Yep they sure are.

Building a garage "upnorth" where I am requires a $50 permit....that's it....they just want to be aware of it for future tax assessment.

 

[old abe]

Interesting you should say that.....the shed that went down in the 90's on Fisher Lake (northern Iron Cty) was a Menards shed kit (metal) we built. That thing twisted up like a pretzel. I rebuilt with reinforced trusses.

The steel in a "pole barn/shed" is where its rigidity, and strength comes from. Huge difference in the steel used. You cannot tear, or rip Morton steel, as you can others. This helps to prevent a building collapsing form stress, and stretching from snow, or wind loads. Morton warranty reflect this.

No doubt there are big differences in pole barn quality.
All my stuff is stick built on slab. I have been questioned "why not a pole barn?....they are cheaper". ...Yep they sure are.

Building a garage "upnorth" where I am requires a $50 permit....that's it....they just want to be aware of it for future tax assessment.

Ha, ha, remember the song, "Money, money, money, money"! Money! Yep, that's it! LOL!

 

[G]

No doubt there are big differences in pole barn quality.
All my stuff is stick built on slab. I have been questioned "why not a pole barn?....they are cheaper". ...Yep they sure are.

Building a garage "upnorth" where I am requires a $50 permit....that's it....they just want to be aware of it for future tax assessment.

Are you referring to a building permit? We have had such things in Minnesota for 150 years. Glad to see you caught up. Up North. Do you think you are on a different planet or something? Up North. BFD.

 

[snobuilder]

Are you referring to a building permit? We have had such things in Minnesota for 150 years. Glad to see you caught up. Up North. Do you think you are on a different planet or something? Up North. BFD.

In your rush to judge my knowledge of building permits you missed my point entirely and once again come across as a spiteful and petty dwarf.

 

[Admin]

The collapse of the school roof is being blamed on faulty trusses. The clocks in that room all stopped at 6:30 am, so it is figured that is when it collapsed. Another hour later and it would be a monumental tragedy.

On another note. Of all the structures I have seen collapse from snow load, none have been due to sidewall/endwall failure. It has been the failure of the roofing system. So I have to question the use of 2x for the walls over posts in an effort to make the structure more sound. Up here, if you use stamped, engineered trusses, the building inspector gives you the go ahead very quickly. If you are building using your own configuration, you better have them approved by an engineer or they will not pass muster with the inspector.

The collapse of the school roof proves that no system is 100% fool proof.

-John