Rode this area 1/12-1/13. Most of the time I rode we were off trail, but overall there is plenty of snow in the area. However, what was surprising, some of the trails were pretty rough with whoops which is not what I have usually experienced in this area in the past, especially the crazy 8 area. On Saturday morning in particular, I was on the trail around 6 AM. Between Seney and Grand Marais, I did not run into a single sled on my way north, but did see two groomers. The trail condition was not much different between and after the groomer. IMHO, but will state I have never groomed a mile in my life, it appeared the groomer may have been going too fast or not cutting deep enough (which may be due to not deep enough snow), to cut down the whoops. I spoke with my brother who is a groomer, and believes more than likely speed is the issue as well. Essentially, riding before and after the groomer, the whoops were still there, just smoothed out. The only other possibility would be with the rain in the area, did previous whoops freeze, and are rock hard and can't cut them down. Again, not an expert here, so I could be off on what I was seeing.