I have a chance at what I think is a pretty screaming deal on a stack on "home defense" safe. It is the 54 gun capacity. Waterproof, fireproof, electrical outlet inside, and the door pockets. Weighs a staggering 850 pounds. List was $1300 and I can buy it for $850. Anyone have experience with these safes? Everything I read it sounds good. I wanted the old school dial com not the diggy. Thoughts?
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Stack on Gun safes
- Thread starter slimcake
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sold safes for 10+ yrs, own a few
bottom line is this, you GET what you pay for in a safe
do some youtube searching and see how the safes stack up
when I sold safes I told folks to think of a safe as an investment, think about how much value is going to be on the items inside, and then ask yourself, how good a safe you need
top line safe in my eye's is a Fort Knoxx
and after that its grade and levels on other brands
I just picked up a nice Champion safe for a hunting property, middle of the road deal on value and protection
but there are a lot of parts to a safe to consider when really looking and understanding what they are and how fast or SLOW a good crook can get into one , or even a moron at times with some of them!
looks can be very deceiving in safes, as many make them to look WAY better than they really are
99% of all Good safe companys offer dial locks as well as digital, so its NOT that big a deal, most times there cheaper with the dial over digital to be honest!
as for stack on?? MY opinion is there very entry level safes
they have JUNK and then some better models
but they are what you pay for them
bottom line is this, you GET what you pay for in a safe
do some youtube searching and see how the safes stack up
when I sold safes I told folks to think of a safe as an investment, think about how much value is going to be on the items inside, and then ask yourself, how good a safe you need
top line safe in my eye's is a Fort Knoxx
and after that its grade and levels on other brands
I just picked up a nice Champion safe for a hunting property, middle of the road deal on value and protection
but there are a lot of parts to a safe to consider when really looking and understanding what they are and how fast or SLOW a good crook can get into one , or even a moron at times with some of them!
looks can be very deceiving in safes, as many make them to look WAY better than they really are
99% of all Good safe companys offer dial locks as well as digital, so its NOT that big a deal, most times there cheaper with the dial over digital to be honest!
as for stack on?? MY opinion is there very entry level safes
they have JUNK and then some better models
but they are what you pay for them
I understand the get what you pay for deal. This is the better version of stack on safes and when comparing fire ratings to the liberty safe I almost bought the stack on is better quality. This will not be my only safe in the house. Just need something to house the long guns ect....
I fully understand, but my view is, when you add up the costs of the what's going inside this safe, does the math add up
I was looking for a decent safe in Jan, for a hunting camp, I looked at all the basic models and brands, again they all have better and cheaper models
I went with Champion, due to the most bangs for the buck, on fire, and build
saving a few $$ and GOD forbid something happens, is the wrong time to find out how well a safe is or isn't
TO be honest, good insurance is almost as good a good safe, just KNOW< most home owners ins only covers a SMALL amount of costs on firearms(had a gun store for many yrs)
I heard countless horror stories after fires and robbery's
I personally have GUN insurance, due to the homeowners cover's so little, lots of small print in homeowner's policy's to screw you
BIG heavy safes deter by size alone, so that's a plus, my one safe is 1800lbs empty, so I feel this way strongly LOL
next however is, HOW well built they are, as I said, go on youtube and watch how FAST they can get into some safes that LOOK solid
this is more where the true SAFE comes out of models, as again, just cause they LOOK Solid, doesn't mean they really are
way I view it is when I add up the costs of what I plan to put in the safe, the cost of the safe shouldn't be a TON less than what's in it to a point of course
view it like this, if this is a 54 gun , safe, and average gun say costs what 400 bucks(some lower and some a LOT higher)
do you really feel 20k+ in value in a 1000 dollar safe is good math??
and then look at TRUE quality safes that start at about 3k
and you start to see what the difference is and WHY the price difference is what it is, quality has a price, but also comes with peace of mind more??
NOT bashing anyone that buys what ever
I just again heard so many BAD sides to when BAD things happen, its an extra kick when your down I try to help others avoid
again, I base what level of safety I need based on what I plan to protect, and where I am at, and what insurance I have maybe too LOL and hey, not everyone can afford a 3 k safe too,
so have to live within your budget
any safe is better than NO safe ??
I was looking for a decent safe in Jan, for a hunting camp, I looked at all the basic models and brands, again they all have better and cheaper models
I went with Champion, due to the most bangs for the buck, on fire, and build
saving a few $$ and GOD forbid something happens, is the wrong time to find out how well a safe is or isn't
TO be honest, good insurance is almost as good a good safe, just KNOW< most home owners ins only covers a SMALL amount of costs on firearms(had a gun store for many yrs)
I heard countless horror stories after fires and robbery's
I personally have GUN insurance, due to the homeowners cover's so little, lots of small print in homeowner's policy's to screw you
BIG heavy safes deter by size alone, so that's a plus, my one safe is 1800lbs empty, so I feel this way strongly LOL
next however is, HOW well built they are, as I said, go on youtube and watch how FAST they can get into some safes that LOOK solid
this is more where the true SAFE comes out of models, as again, just cause they LOOK Solid, doesn't mean they really are
way I view it is when I add up the costs of what I plan to put in the safe, the cost of the safe shouldn't be a TON less than what's in it to a point of course
view it like this, if this is a 54 gun , safe, and average gun say costs what 400 bucks(some lower and some a LOT higher)
do you really feel 20k+ in value in a 1000 dollar safe is good math??
and then look at TRUE quality safes that start at about 3k
and you start to see what the difference is and WHY the price difference is what it is, quality has a price, but also comes with peace of mind more??
NOT bashing anyone that buys what ever
I just again heard so many BAD sides to when BAD things happen, its an extra kick when your down I try to help others avoid
again, I base what level of safety I need based on what I plan to protect, and where I am at, and what insurance I have maybe too LOL and hey, not everyone can afford a 3 k safe too,
so have to live within your budget
any safe is better than NO safe ??
All these "safes" sold in stores are UL listed as Residential security CONTAINER. Basically a large sheet metal box with drywall. With todays cordless tools a guy could be into one in no time. Jumping to a safe like a class B is a big step in price. When I looked a small 10-12 gun was in the $2500 range. I went with a Stack On for my collection lol but if I had a 15k or more in firearms I would spend more money.