UP as a new state?

[lmuch21]

Was reading an article that contained this paragraph:

"Folks on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, bordered by Wisconsin and the Great Lakes, which is connected to lower Michigan by a bridge, have long dreamed of a separate state called Superior. The UP has little in common with Lansing and nothing with Detroit."

I'm not looking to start a secession debate, but was just curious if there was some truth to this or just some guy spewing garbage...

 

[polarisrider1]

Spew.

 

[jonesin]

even if they wanted too, they couldnt afford it

 

[Go Fast or Go Home]

I'm 65 years old and have been hearing this rumor since I was a young boy.

I do not think hardly any one in the State has much in common with Lansing and NONE with Detroit.

 

[mezz]

Was reading an article that contained this paragraph:

"Folks on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, bordered by Wisconsin and the Great Lakes, which is connected to lower Michigan by a bridge, have long dreamed of a separate state called Superior. The UP has little in common with Lansing and nothing with Detroit."

I'm not looking to start a secession debate, but was just curious if there was some truth to this or just some guy spewing garbage...

This was being pursued in the mid to later 70's, so not garbage being spewed. I honestly could have seen reason for this move back in the mining hay day's as the population & the amount of employment at the time could have supported it, not now though.-Mezz

 

[whitedust]

Was reading an article that contained this paragraph:

"Folks on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, bordered by Wisconsin and the Great Lakes, which is connected to lower Michigan by a bridge, have long dreamed of a separate state called Superior. The UP has little in common with Lansing and nothing with Detroit."

I'm not looking to start a secession debate, but was just curious if there was some truth to this or just some guy spewing garbage...

I have not heard anything about it in recent years on map just looks like more of northern WI.

 

[frnash]

Superior (proposed U.S. state)

Not garbage, not 'spew', but fact, see (click →) Wikipedia: Superior (proposed U.S. state).

Excerpts:

"In 1962, an Upper Peninsula Independence Association was founded to advocate for the formation of a State of Superior. A secession bill was submitted to the Michigan Legislature, and 20,000 petition signatures were collected—36,000 short of the number needed—for a ballot referendum on separation."

Several prominent legislators, including local U.P. politician Dominic Jacobetti, attempted enacting such legislation in the 1970s, with no success."

 

[jr37]

frnash for Governor!

 

[lenny]

as I was reading the posts I was thinking that we need Frank's input on this one and BAM, my wish comes true.

So Frank, how are you doing?

 

[frnash]

as I was reading the posts I was thinking that we need Frank's input on this one and BAM, my wish comes true.

Of course I was at Michigan Tech in 1962 (Class of 1962) but I hung around for another two years, so I was pretty familiar with the secession effort.

So Frank, how are you doing?

Doing OK. Some of my heart meds have been antagonizing my liver, so three MDs (GP, Cardiologist and Gastroenterologist) are trying to work that out, but meanwhile, I have to lay off the "adult beverages", drat!

 

[lenny]

Of course I was at Michigan Tech in 1962 (Class of 1962) but I hung around for another two years, so I was pretty familiar with the secession effort.

Doing OK. Some of my heart meds have been antagonizing my liver, so three MDs (GP, Cardiologist and Gastroenterologist) are trying to work that out, but meanwhile, I have to lay off the "adult beverages", drat!

aw man, no favorite beverages, that's a tough one. Hey, do you ever miss the UP? Do you miss the snow?

 

[anonomoose]

Many areas of the country wanted to further divide or seceed from the state they were created in. Not unsual, but often costly and therefore unlikely.

I remember reading somewhere that in one of the efforts to turn the mid portions of the pennisula into a farming land, it was at the forefront of discussion and the name picked out was "dairyland". Much of the central farm lands were cleared and farmed by those who favored this new state.

Ah, but as some have touched on above, the cost to do this was prohibitive and like it or not, the lands in the north would need the funds from below the bridge to survive. I can just imagine all the talk if the U.P. pulled away and then the Capital of the new state, Marquette, had to form a government and begin charging tax to cover roads and bridges and all the other things that get funded from the lands below the bridge. It would make for some interesting reading....

 

[polarisrider1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_(proposed_U.S._state)