What is in the trees
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Firecatguy
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yep we got them all over here too
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The best comparison I would have for you would be someone living east of the Rockies. They are what is called an "invasive species" type of bug that love to eat ash trees. Came over from China I believe and have been wrecking havoc with the ash tree population in the Midwest. Sad part is, they arrived in the UP via firewood transported by visitors to the area. As if the UP does not have any firewood of it's own!
-John
The best comparison I would have for you would be someone living east of the Rockies. They are what is called an "invasive species" type of bug that love to eat ash trees. Came over from China I believe and have been wrecking havoc with the ash tree population in the Midwest. Sad part is, they arrived in the UP via firewood transported by visitors to the area. As if the UP does not have any firewood of it's own!
-John
techsledder
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Like john said an invasive insect > Kind of like what you guys are seeing with all your Pine trees out there with the Mountain Pine Beetle, but for our Ash trees...
anonomoose
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I am afraid beetles are here to stay unless someone finds a silver bullet for them. Like the Dutch Elm disease that took the huge towering trees out many decades ago, we now will live without any mature ash. These trees are subject to these beetles which will cycle up and down as the younger ash trees mature.
Story has it that one of the first KNOWN invasions of this beetle in the U.P. came from a guy who got the wood for free (he cuts trees for a living and it was dead, eh??) and brought it up all split up. Neighbor said it was full of the bugs ...called the DNR on him, and he had to pay the maximum fine of $500...don't yah know they punished that guy but good with that one, eh?
Ah, it probably was going to happen anyway, but talk about know'n better!!!
The elms come back too but as they get bigger and the disease comes back right with it, no huge trees will ever exist without some sort of help from treatment...and the once mighty forests of ash are now gone by the wayside, thanks in no small part by the ignorance of man. This one is really personal, because I had to cut down a 6 ft + di. tree for family and there is so much ash available I could NOT even find someone who wanted the lumber...so it has become fire wood. This was beautiful wood and a tree that size would have some amazing lumber...and I doubting we will ever see this sized tree again.
Speaking of diseases and such...anyone else note the gypsy moth infestation along I-75 by Indian River?? White Oaks are taking it on the chin too.
Story has it that one of the first KNOWN invasions of this beetle in the U.P. came from a guy who got the wood for free (he cuts trees for a living and it was dead, eh??) and brought it up all split up. Neighbor said it was full of the bugs ...called the DNR on him, and he had to pay the maximum fine of $500...don't yah know they punished that guy but good with that one, eh?
Ah, it probably was going to happen anyway, but talk about know'n better!!!
The elms come back too but as they get bigger and the disease comes back right with it, no huge trees will ever exist without some sort of help from treatment...and the once mighty forests of ash are now gone by the wayside, thanks in no small part by the ignorance of man. This one is really personal, because I had to cut down a 6 ft + di. tree for family and there is so much ash available I could NOT even find someone who wanted the lumber...so it has become fire wood. This was beautiful wood and a tree that size would have some amazing lumber...and I doubting we will ever see this sized tree again.
Speaking of diseases and such...anyone else note the gypsy moth infestation along I-75 by Indian River?? White Oaks are taking it on the chin too.
favoritos
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They are trying this method in our region.
We will see how that works. Interesting that they are bringing in another non-native species to fight the first one.
http://greatlakesecho.org/2010/07/0...-weaponize-wasps-to-combat-emerald-ash-borer/
We did see the traps all over the place along roads, in the parks, etc. Who is doing all that work? They were everywhere.
We will see how that works. Interesting that they are bringing in another non-native species to fight the first one.
http://greatlakesecho.org/2010/07/0...-weaponize-wasps-to-combat-emerald-ash-borer/
We did see the traps all over the place along roads, in the parks, etc. Who is doing all that work? They were everywhere.
ohiosledder
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From our experiences here in N.W. Ohio, I doubt the traps will do much good, but I hope for the best. I wish the traps would have been tried down here. As mentioned above, nearly all ash trees have been killed, and many that weren't were cut down for quarantine measures. We have metroparks that had thousands of trees of cut down. In my yard, I have 22 trees that have to be cut down, and most of them showed no signs of the bug last year - it kills that quickly.
They are put up by the DNRE. I'm not sure if the traps are put solely to try and save the trees. I think the real intent was to just try and capture them to see where they had spread to. I will say I am seeing a lot more of them around than I saw the past few years.
Have one hanging up across the street and down the road about 1/4 mile from me. I don't have too may ash trees on the property, thank goodness.
-John
Have one hanging up across the street and down the road about 1/4 mile from me. I don't have too may ash trees on the property, thank goodness.
-John
techsledder
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Yeah I saw that. My in-laws are from there and over the 4th weekend we visited. Their oaks looked terrible in their yard... and they have service come in and spray. Almost sounded like it was too little to late for this year.
My parent's oaks are getting hit harder as the years go by over here in a Milwaukee suburb. They really need a spray service to come in too. I'm not a tree hugger, but it's sad to see a 65+ foot oak get taking out by these insects.
All the traps out there are to let the DNR know the spread of the EAB. The traps will not get rid of them. We now have them in our county and spreding fast. When you see them, they have already been in the area for 3-5 years. It just take some time and then it explodes. We have treated some of our ash trees that are in high use areas of our parks. In the mean time we will start planting other trees to fill in those spots. Soon we will take those ash down. The ash that are in the forest will die and become habitat. Many towns have all ash trees line parkways. Those streets will look alot diffrent.