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Do you buy that? Combine Lake Superior ice along with Lake Michigan ice, then you probably get another repeat of last summer. John???

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Snirtdawg

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Lake Michigan went from 75% ice covered on Feb 28 to 33% on March 11. They are now saying that April and May and going to be above normal temps. With that forecast, maybe a normal spring. Last year we did not get out of the icebox until mid June in eastern FIB land.
 

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It will depend mostly on which way the winds blow most from during the summer as to temps. If winds are mostly from the NW or N, then the air will be cooled by the lake waters, which will likely be colder than average for at least spring and early summer. If they blow from the S or SW, then the lakes will have no influence and temps would run above average.

-John
 
It will depend mostly on which way the winds blow most from during the summer as to temps. If winds are mostly from the NW or N, then the air will be cooled by the lake waters, which will likely be colder than average for at least spring and early summer. If they blow from the S or SW, then the lakes will have no influence and temps would run above average.

-John

Having lived 17 years in Door County, here is my observation for onshore wind.

In the Spring and Summer months, onshore lake breeze would usually start daily typically between 1:30 - 2:00 pm, did not matter much which direction the ground level surface winds were blowing unless extremely strong. High pressure builds over the lake causing the wind direction switch. Inland temps. in the peninsula would drop 10 - 20 degrees in minutes depending on air temp. at the time of wind direction switch. Cooler near the lake were words I did not want to hear in summer.

Fall months would see much less on shore breeze, surface water temps. warmed up enough to reduce lake effect breeze.

So if ice goes out early and late spring is warm, maybe there is hope for a warmer summer as you say.


HH
 
Extensive ice coverage to limit severe weather, pose challenges to shipping industry

3/15 - For the second consecutive winter, ice coverage on the Great Lakes is well above normal, with 73.7 percent of the Great Lakes basin covered in ice as of March 9.

While ice coverage is down overall compared to this time last season, three of the five lakes are still heavily covered, with Lake Erie at 91.3 percent, Lake Huron above 89 percent and Lake Superior 84.9 percent as of March 10, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory.

On March 1, total ice coverage was ahead of where it was on March 1, 2014, 88 percent versus 86 percent, but ice coverage continues to drop. Last winter, Great Lakes ice coverage peaked at 92.5 on March 6, 2014, ranking as the second-most ice coverage in recorded history. This year, the highest percentage was 88.7 percent on Feb. 28, according to NOAA Physical Scientist George Leshkevich.

The ice coverage could have an impact on the amount of severe weather this spring around the Great Lakes, according to AccuWeather.com Lead Long-Range Forecaster Paul Pastelok. The cooler waters will recover slowly, and lead to stability in the surrounding area, he added.

"Higher stability limits frequency and intensity of severe weather," Pastelok said.

Last year, it wasn't until June when the Great Lakes were finally free of ice, but Pastelok said he felt the percentages will be down by May and perhaps early June compared to last year.

The difference this year is the potential for milder air to sweep into western areas of the Great Lakes sometime in April, according to Pastelok. Plus, there will be some recovery, unlike last year, for a time in March where temperatures increase and the ice coverage may melt off, especially across the western and southwestern lakes, he said.

"A faster recovery could mean a warmer summer for this region," Pastelok said.

Normally, maximum ice coverage is reached on the lower lakes, such as Lake Erie, between the middle and end of February, while early to mid-March is when maximum coverage occurs on the upper lakes, Leshkevich said.

"Usually at this time we start [to] see a decline in ice cover," he said.

Ice on the lakes can be severely detrimental to the shipping industry and can lead to delays in the spring shipping season. Although the mild conditions this week have helped reduce ice coverage, there is still plenty of time for winter to make its presence felt.

Last winter, the extraordinary amount of ice on the Great Lakes caused shipping to be brought to a "virtual standstill" according to a news release from the Lake Carriers Association (LCA). The LCA reported that the harsh conditions cost the economy more than $700 million and nearly 4,000 jobs.

"The cement trade on the lower Great Lakes often resumes about March 1 and iron ore shipments on Lake Michigan and Lake Erie start back up not long after that," LCA president James H.I. Weakley said in the release. "Demand for U.S.-flag cargos during periods of ice cover can approach 20 million tons."

"Even on the lower lakes it has been a rough winter on shipping," Leshkevich said. "The cold, the ice buildup ... it remains to be seen what happens with the warm temperatures we've been having, if they continue."

This past January, the U.S. Coast Guard in conjunction with the Canadian Coast Guard, initiated Operation Coal Shovel, a seasonal domestic ice-breaking operation to help keep waterways clear.

Accuweather.com
 
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