Yamaha Snowmobile Development?

xsledder

Active member
So, what was your take on the article in Snow Goer regarding Yamaha moving its development out of Minocqua?
 

whitedust

Well-known member
What’s to do in Minocqua for Yamaha development all Engine R&D is in Japan all chassis development is controlled by Textron. Minocqua was/is a cush job ride a few snowmobiles and go home for supper you can do that better in Canada more snow and colder. The OEM relationship is here as long as Textron permits it and Yamaha is able to sell Blue AC sleds with 4s engines. Minocqua seems useless to me an unnecessary expense that will be sold in a hot real estate market. Makes business sense to me why support a facility you never intend to use streamline as much as you can.
 

1fujifilm

Well-known member
So, what was your take on the article in Snow Goer regarding Yamaha moving its development out of Minocqua?

Yamaha develops snowmobiles?

Not according to the boys in TRF, boxes of Yamaha sleds stacked 5 high as we speak..the weird part is 20x more A/C sleds stacked next to them.

Just fooling around, been in TRF for 14 months now..those green Textron UTV's remind me of Army jeeps ready to go on an aircraft carrier..kind of creepy.

Bear
 

szotty

Member
The set up they have here was pretty neat. They had it for testing everything. Summer never know it’s there but winter had all the private trails and drag area. Neat how they got the old mercury test area. Know few who worked there and I have also done new floors out there. I would say it’s sad to hear seeing the employees were dedicated to making yamahas better constantly but since they went in with cat they just needed to tweak cats lol. I would say being a snowmobile nut it was one of the better days while doing there floors.
 

jake

Member
Szotty, where was the complex?  I heard it was on or near Squirrel Lake?   Just curious if/when it might come on the market.   Prime real estate.
 

harvest1121

Well-known member
Saw them testing a lot last year around Squirrel Lake.  Knew they were test snowmobiles by the numbers on them and always had a Nytro with them.  I posted something about the blue color and it was taken off Total Yamaha.  I just want my 2022 Sidewinder Gt to come in before December.
 

szotty

Member
Can’t say where it’s at or what I saw the different times there over the years but I have to laugh cus on google maps can see Polaris test area out side of the plant same with artic cat but there can’t see anything from google maps just trees. But yes probly a good chunk of property
 

kip

Well-known member
I disagree Pete. Much testing was done over the years and to lose the facility and employees is a real bummer. A lot of cool stuff happened and was developed in Minocqua throughout the years. If you call putting on 30,000 miles with two people on a two up Venture fun and cush then have at it:) They performed a lot of tuning and developing for our air and elevation. That certainly was not a waste at all. Where they test in Canada is no more snow than N.W. I've been where they test in Canada. Yes, things certainly slowed there, but the testing of Cat sleds in Minocqua made the Cat product much better. I've personally witnessed these guys testing many times and their jobs were not easy and I wouldn't of done it. Many hours riding and testing in miserable weather and conditions. Many deadlines to meet, not easy mentally or physically.
 

Skylar

Super Moderator
Staff member
Many times over the years I saw the Yamaha trader and trucks parked at Kips and Krupps. One day at Krupp's I actually went over and talked to some of the test riders. That day they were testing shock set up. Trail 13 to Greenland, up the Nichols back to Krupp's, change the valving or whatever, then do it again, same 2 trails over and over and over and over. Didn't sound like a lot of fun, more like a job lol.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
I disagree Pete. Much testing was done over the years and to lose the facility and employees is a real bummer. A lot of cool stuff happened and was developed in Minocqua throughout the years. If you call putting on 30,000 miles with two people on a two up Venture fun and cush then have at it:) They performed a lot of tuning and developing for our air and elevation. That certainly was not a waste at all. Where they test in Canada is no more snow than N.W. I've been where they test in Canada. Yes, things certainly slowed there, but the testing of Cat sleds in Minocqua made the Cat product much better. I've personally witnessed these guys testing many times and their jobs were not easy and I wouldn't of done it. Many hours riding and testing in miserable weather and conditions. Many deadlines to meet, not easy mentally or physically.
I read the closing of Yamaha Minocqua facility as a forward thinking decision. I don’t disagree a lot of testing on the mono and long before took place there as well as Greenland on trail 3. I thought the mono handled the whoops and junk on trail 3 darn well. Unfortunately Yamaha suspensions are long gone and all AC procross now and near future. Whatever was going on at Minocqua is over now probably seen as a duplicate effort to TRF efforts. Yamaha according to the article will still do their thing in Canada if that’s testing Ventures idk?
 

chunk06

Active member
Szotty, where was the complex?* I heard it was on or near Squirrel Lake?* *Just curious if/when it might come on the market.* *Prime real estate.

It is Just west of Squirrel Lake off Gilbertson RD, I think Yamaha owns around 500 acres. You have to wonder what they will do with it? With the market the way it is it is probably a hot property.
 

kip

Well-known member
As of right now they're not looking to sell it and the facility won't officially close until sometime in Spring of 2022.
 

chunk06

Active member
As of right now they're not looking to sell it and the facility won't officially close until sometime in Spring of 2022.

Kip, looking at the property on ONX Hunt it appears there is or was a MX track on the property. Did they do any testing of MX bikes there? I'm a big fan of MX so that would be pretty cool.
 

old abe

Well-known member
So, what was your take on the article in Snow Goer regarding Yamaha moving its development out of Minocqua?

Don't get sucked into "Wishful Thinking". Yamaha, willingly, intentionally, misled us for years! NO MORE! What ever Yam will have for sleds, is absolutely all up to Textron, PERIOD!
 

xsledder

Active member
Don't get sucked into "Wishful Thinking". Yamaha, willingly, intentionally, misled us for years! NO MORE! What ever Yam will have for sleds, is absolutely all up to Textron, PERIOD!
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<br>I did not have any wishful thoughts.  I quickly read the article at my in-laws and did not know what to think.  Just soliciting thoughts from others who read the article.<br>
 

old abe

Well-known member
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<br>I did not have any wishful thoughts. *I quickly read the article at my in-laws and did not know what to think. *Just soliciting thoughts from others who read the article.<br>

No harm intended. I got sucked into Yamaha BS before, but never again! There will never be a "All new, all Yamaha snowmobile". Too much time has passed them by, and they aren't interested.
 

kip

Well-known member
I'm not sure if they tested bikes there or not, but if I was a betting man I'd say yes. They certainly did test snow kits on bikes that much I do know.
 
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