How Do You Choose The Right Snomo Club To Join?

whitedust

Well-known member
We have been members of snowmobile clubs in the past & didn't find the experience very satisfying as far as finding hard-core like minded riding buds & club events were not much interest either. They had their trail boss & helpers so just became a member that writes a check really all they wanted from me at the time. So when we moved north I decided to stuff donation jars at bar/grills where ever we were riding & spent far more than WI club membership dues. We also ride UPMI a lot so wanted to stuff their donation jars too. With WI CapStep coming we feel the need to get out in front of the mandate/or option to join a WI club & do it on our own. We won't stuff WI donation jars anymore just pay dues, we will stuff MI donation jars & found some WI clubs discount membership dues if you join more than 1 club. So all this brings us back to the to the original question which Club to join & how do you decide? Keep in mind we around completely surrounded by many snowmobile Clubs so our quest to find the best fit before we commit. I hope this question does not offend any club members sure not meant to upset anyone but "Club fit" is important to us.:)
 

MZEMS2

New member
My gut would say, join where you ride most, but I understand the "fit" aspect too. How about just going to some of the meetings, meet the folks, and hash it out based on your experiences at the meetings.?
 

jr37

Well-known member
I guess I would suggest going to a meeting or 2 of the various clubs and feel it out. I don't think you have to join a club to go to a meeting. Tell them you are interested in joining a club in the area and are trying to see which feels the best for you. I also don't think you need to belong to more than one club. Find one that you like and put your efforts into that one. Do you have friends in the area that may suggest a club?

I was born into my club. My Dad is a still active founding member. So, I have been in my club my entire life. 44 years and counting.

I am glad to hear you are looking to join a club. I only hope more people here follow your lead.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
I guess I would suggest going to a meeting or 2 of the various clubs and feel it out. I don't think you have to join a club to go to a meeting. Tell them you are interested in joining a club in the area and are trying to see which feels the best for you. I also don't think you need to belong to more than one club. Find one that you like and put your efforts into that one. Do you have friends in the area that may suggest a club?

I was born into my club. My Dad is a still active founding member. So, I have been in my club my entire life. 44 years and counting.

I am glad to hear you are looking to join a club. I only hope more people here follow your lead.

I have friends in different clubs some deeply involved others others not so much all of them talk about the "Fit" being most important to them. I get it been there done that big time with show waterski clubs very well known in that world been with many clubs & "Fit" thing does change & each club was soooooooo different.
 

ezra

Well-known member
it is hard some times.
I was in one around my house for yrs and was not happy about a lot going on or I should say lack of things going on.
a new club was started in a neighboring town went to check it out and joined that day. best decision I could have made was to dump the old club and move to one more in line with what I wanted out of a club mainly snowmobiling as the #1 priority..well that and I walked out of the last club mid meeting with a are u FING kidding me when they actually had a vote to $$ fund the cross country ski team.
on a side note this new club is getting trails back open getting new trails open getting events going coinciding with city events like snowmobile softball games. I will do local riding with guys But I have never and prob never will go on a club trip.If I travel it is not to get stuck on a trail in a cloud of snow dust all weekend.
if no clubs fit your Idea of what a club should be start a new one.
if it is good people will come
 
This topic is something I have been thinking about for years. Being from Illinois, but riding 100% in Wisconsin, I felt the need to join a club...but which one. We go to so many different areas of the state, I really didn't know who to join. I have, in the past just sent money to the AWSA. Would it be wrong to join a different one each year? My membership would most likely be hands off (regretfully).
 

rakins800

Member
My story- I found one by accident. Went to a certian area for 10 yrs. The trails were always PERFECT where this club groomed. Which also happens to be the 2nd most in the entire state of Michigan!! Got tired of stuffing the trail fund jars, so my group of riding buddy's and myself joined as lifetime members. Never even saw the clubhouse, or met anyone from the club, for 10 yrs. No meetings, though we were invited every time via email, text, and U.S. Postal service. We tend to ride during the week, most of the club rides were on weekends. Then, about 4 yrs. ago, we just happend to be up during superbowl weekend. It was bitter cold, about -10 at 4:00pm. We stopped about 2 blocks away from the clubhouse for a beverage and to warm up. On our way out, I mentioned to a buddy we should stop in and introduce ourselves, being lifetime members and all. Long/short, we were welcomed by EVERY MEMBER, encouraged to come back often, and treated better then we could ever imagine. Now, we make every attempt to ride with the club every chance we get.
So, my advice is just stop by the clubhouse, or wherever they have the meetings, and mingle around. Shouldn't take very long to find the right group of people.
And my club of choice is Moose Country, Republic, Michigan. :)
 

Ramsey

New member
I just joined a club for the first time. I live nine hours from where we ride the most when we do come north. We ride on the trails of several different clubs, I ended up deciding to join the club that seems to take the best care of their trails. I do throw a couple of bucks in the jars from time to time regardless of what club it is.
I attempted to make the trip for brushing trails but when I inquired about dates and the process I didn't get a response from the club. I would like to do the trail brush thing just to see the country when it's not covered in snow. I will likely continue to join a club but not necessarily the same one every year, we'll see. I've noticed there is a club here in southern Illinois but I just don't know what benefit there would be to joining. I've considered it just never done it.
 

dfattack

Well-known member
Good question. I spend most of my time in Illinois, have a house in Spread Eagle, WI (Florence) and do most of my riding in the U.P...so....where do I join?? I decided to join the Florence Club (Blue OX Trail Riders) since I would use their trails EVERY time I rode except when I trailered due to low snow conditions. When I left from the house I used their trails every time to go east west or north which always took me into the U.P. I rarely ride the Eagle river/lando area since there is much more traffic than where I am or the U.P.. I knew they had lower membership then the more popular riding destinations like Eagle River and knew their funds were more limited so I figured they needed the club dues more than the larger clubs. Since I'm never around when they do the trail brushing, etc. I try to help in other ways. For example, one year they needed gear/vests for trail patrol or something like that. I paid for all the gear to get them up and running. There is always a way to help if you look or try hard enough. I do think you should join where you ride the most...even if you are only passing through to get to your destination.

That's how I think, but am interested to see what others do or suggest.
 

snoluver1

Active member
This is a good question. I've often asked myself the same. Just doesn't make much sense to join a club where I live, as I never ride here. I ended up joining a club 1600 miles away for the "fit" reason. I loved what the club was doing and really connected with the members. That being said, I'm not sure that makes any more sense than joining a club where I live but never ride? I throw money in the jars where ever I go and also donate to state and national organizations that fight for our sport, just wish I could be more involved somehow. Maybe we need to start a national "snow chasers" club for all of us that travle all over the country to ride?
 

ezra

Well-known member
I don't know about the only joining where u ride theory. I rarely ride the trails my club runs.
but I go out brush/mark and talk with land owners.
I dont have time to drive 4 hrs then do that stuff.
I guess I feel better about doing soothing even if I get no benefit from it. I just do it for the sport in general.
heck I dont even enjoy trail running any more but I put the time in so they may still be there when I am old and are the only things I can run on a sled.
I still toss cash in the jars and drop a 10 for every map I buy but I know my labor goes further than the cash.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
Released this as our profile to a club today.What do you think? How would this be viewed? We need to hear from all you then we tell you what we were told in a nice way of course.:)

Club "Fit" is emerging as the most important characteristic for us. We are 2 men I'm the older 1 the other is 60 & we have ridden 20K- 30K of miles in UPMI & WI over the years. We both have been riding alone for years & found each other online he lives in Sayner. We are hardcore in the sense that we cover a lot of miles in a day 250 -300 is an average or we just hack around Vilas in the late afternoon for a quick 75-100 miles like to be back home by dark. We occasionally stop for a quick burger neither of us drink past 1 beer. Doesn't sound like we would be too interested in a large club ride sucking down all that snow & exhaust but might try it once to check it out. What we are looking for are riders similar to us that like to pack on miles doesn't matter if groomed trails or ungoomed FRs we do it all during a days ride WI & UPMI. Age doesn't matter either we ride with 25 year olds too. So what we have here is 2 very independent riders that found each other by chance & we decided to branch out join a club as the right thing to do. The club needs help brushing maintaining trails & we are in no problem at all but not interested in Admin at all. We would like the club to be a conduit to meet other riders similar to us & hang with like minded people.

Does this sound like the right fit for your snowmobile club?
 

dfattack

Well-known member
I re-read my post and I wanted to clarify something. I rarely ride on the trails that my club maintains. I simply use the trails to leave my area. I end up spending most of my seat time in the U.P. So, I support my local club knowing their funds are extremely limited compared to the larger more populated clubs in other parts of the state.
 

ezra

Well-known member
one more side note 2 of the guys I ride with 80% of the time I met in a local club that none of us are in any more. I would prob have never met them if not for the club.
the new club I am in we have been riding a lot with 1 of the guys from that club and almost guarantee we would not have met him with out the club.
 

zozo2

New member
The most important part of your question about which club to join was already answered in your thread when you stated that you have decided to (re)join a club. Club membership is extremely important as most of the trail work is done by club members, so that decision is to be commended, even if you never hammer in a stake! I have been in snowmobile clubs and organizations since the beginning and they were all different, but all were there with the primary focus of being a part of putting in the trails and promoting everything good for the Wisconsin snowmobile program. And there is no shortage of clubs to choose from, even if you live out-of-state. Talk to others, search the internet, maybe go to a couple of different club meetings, then decide. You won’t regret it, even if you find that your club of choice is somewhat “cliquish” or maybe too focused on the drinking part of meetings, conventions with hospitality rooms, etc. etc. The club of choice will be happy to have you. You will most likely find that only a few of the club members actually take an active role—probably less than 25%, and even less than that for the number of persons who go to the meetings and hold offices. Just saying, this is the reality of snowmobile clubs and probably other similar organizations such as your church group or boating club. Most club membership dues vary from about $10 on up, depending on whether or not they include AWSC membership (not all do), active vs inactive membership, single or family, and other factors. Websites can also answer those questions. Generally the clubs receive the bulk of their financial input from fundraisers and a return of snowmobile registration moneys (basic registration fee, gas tax return, 1.5+ multiplier funding—all from the State of Wisconsin through the counties following submission of properly filled-out paper work by the club). The Wisconsin Snowmobile Recreation Council is the group that advises the WDNR on which projects and expenses that are submitted for reimbursement actually are recommended and receive this funding. No money received by the clubs comes from AWSC, which is a private organization that provides some of its funds to officers and maybe others who help run their organization, their administrations costs, and very large (sometimes) lobbying costs. Clubs usually spend most of their funds for groomer fuel and insurance, and for trail signs and other expenses that don’t qualify for reimbursement, such as their newsletters, postage, some club activies (parties, banquets), and other administration costs. Didn’t mean to get off of the topic of your thread, but some of these things need to be brought out. So, please join a club of your choice, voluntarily, and we welcome you aboard. Until Cap/Step passes, if it ever does, you do not HAVE to join, and even then you won’t have to join but you would have to pay a higher snowmobile registration cost to ride if you don’t.
 

groomerdriver

New member
Released this as our profile to a club today.What do you think? How would this be viewed? We need to hear from all you then we tell you what we were told in a nice way of course.:)

Club "Fit" is emerging as the most important characteristic for us. We are 2 men I'm the older 1 the other is 60 & we have ridden 20K- 30K of miles in UPMI & WI over the years. We both have been riding alone for years & found each other online he lives in Sayner. We are hardcore in the sense that we cover a lot of miles in a day 250 -300 is an average or we just hack around Vilas in the late afternoon for a quick 75-100 miles like to be back home by dark. We occasionally stop for a quick burger neither of us drink past 1 beer. Doesn't sound like we would be too interested in a large club ride sucking down all that snow & exhaust but might try it once to check it out. What we are looking for are riders similar to us that like to pack on miles doesn't matter if groomed trails or ungoomed FRs we do it all during a days ride WI & UPMI. Age doesn't matter either we ride with 25 year olds too. So what we have here is 2 very independent riders that found each other by chance & we decided to branch out join a club as the right thing to do. The club needs help brushing maintaining trails & we are in no problem at all but not interested in Admin at all. We would like the club to be a conduit to meet other riders similar to us & hang with like minded people.

Does this sound like the right fit for your snowmobile club?

I wish I lived over by you or vice versa. We've lived here for 4 years and I belong to 3 different area clubs and can't find anybody that has the same amount "snow on the ground..let's ride!" passion as I do. Also very cliquey (sp?) around here....very hard to break into the grooming ranks even though I have close to 30 years of experience.

So back to the question....to me, some clubs are "social" clubs and some clubs are "for the trails" clubs. Find the one that fits you best.
 

renegade

Active member
Also very cliquey (sp?) around here....very hard to break into the grooming ranks even though I have close to 30 years of experience.

We had the same problem at the county level. They were complaining about lack of help with grooming, and we wanted and offered but were never giving the opportunity. Finally got sick of waiting after 6 years and got together with surrounding clubs and got enough votes to make some changes. A new grooming cordinator and a new home for the groomer. And boom, the next club meeting 5 new members. Point is, old club members need to give the new ones an oppurtunity to get involved. The feeling of some responsibility will get people motivated to help more and possibly to get more people involved. I'm sure its hard for someone who is used to grooming to give up time in the seat, but sometimes its best for the strength of the club. Cap/Step will help give more hours available to go around.

As far as the fit for a club, our club gives new members a sheet of paper to fill out to better get an idea of what their interests are, wheather its marking, administrative, etc. This helps to know how to assign poeple tasks, or at least who to ask.
 
Released this as our profile to a club today.What do you think? How would this be viewed? We need to hear from all you then we tell you what we were told in a nice way of course.:)

Club "Fit" is emerging as the most important characteristic for us. We are 2 men I'm the older 1 the other is 60 & we have ridden 20K- 30K of miles in UPMI & WI over the years. We both have been riding alone for years & found each other online he lives in Sayner. We are hardcore in the sense that we cover a lot of miles in a day 250 -300 is an average or we just hack around Vilas in the late afternoon for a quick 75-100 miles like to be back home by dark. We occasionally stop for a quick burger neither of us drink past 1 beer. Doesn't sound like we would be too interested in a large club ride sucking down all that snow & exhaust but might try it once to check it out. What we are looking for are riders similar to us that like to pack on miles doesn't matter if groomed trails or ungoomed FRs we do it all during a days ride WI & UPMI. Age doesn't matter either we ride with 25 year olds too. So what we have here is 2 very independent riders that found each other by chance & we decided to branch out join a club as the right thing to do. The club needs help brushing maintaining trails & we are in no problem at all but not interested in Admin at all. We would like the club to be a conduit to meet other riders similar to us & hang with like minded people.

Does this sound like the right fit for your snowmobile club?

I feel what you have been saying.I have been in 2 different local clubs since moveing here,,the first one was to clicky for me,,the second one is a good group of people and they do a fine job on the trails, but something is just not there for me,,now this year I am joining another club so I will be in 2 local clubs.I am also still a long time member of a ILL club from before I moved here. I stay in it because I still have good friends in it that I only get to see a few times a year.The ILL club also has a big club trip that I attend yearly at Cedar Lodge on Turtle Flowage in Iron county. I have meet a lot of good people thru these clubs.I hope you find one you fit in because fitting in is also very important in my book.What I get sick of is where was you on such and such date,,you said you wanted to be active.Hard to be active when you are not notified of when things are happening.
 

dj2muchjunk

New member
If you ride you should belong to a club. If you can help with trails , fund raisers etc. join a club close to your residence. I do not count on club members to go riding with. We all have different schedules and likes as far as what kind of ride we might be in the mood for. Thanks for supporting the sport of snowmobiling no matter how you go about it.
 
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