I thought I had already stated as such, several times, that climate continually changes. Warmer, cooler, wetter, drier, or whatever. Norms are no more than averages for a given period. Being in ag, I follow Elwin Taylor, ISU climatologist. The 55 years was in generally speaking, no certain year intended. I should have said +/-.
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You guys are only comparing your little area you live in. You need to look at it in a global world wide sense. All I need to see is glaciers melting, records in Antarctica being set on a yearly basis, basically high temperature records being set around the world to know this earth is warming. You can call it cyclical you can call it what you want but the numbers and the melting ice shelves don't lie.
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...and you are comparing the climate of 10,000's of years to the little gnat hair of time you will walk this planet?
Let me guess....when you see these images of melting glaciers, there is always sullen music dubbed in the background?....The one with the swimming polar bear always cracks me up.....LOL
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It really makes no difference if the earth is warming. Humans will adapt. It might be hard on a few species but again it doesn't really matter. It will not have any impact on my life whatsoever if polar bears go extinct. I bet it won't on most others either. If you are foolish enough to already own a house on the beach somewhere you will have to find a new place to live. You are not going to die. You are going to move. The entire global warming hand wringing media grabbing bs is just a bunch of nothing. But if you are smart there will be money to be made off of it. Just ask Algore.
naw man I'm not one of them people, just hard to deny the satellite images of hundred of miles of what used to be ice is now water just 10 years ago.
Like I said call it what you want just sayin",,,,by the time is affects my life I'll be a pile of ashes.
I'll leave it up to the pros like JD to figure it out.
Like I said call it what you want just sayin",,,,by the time is affects my life I'll be a pile of ashes.
I'll leave it up to the pros like JD to figure it out.
So you are aware that ice coverage in Antarctica is at record levels, right? And you are aware that we only have data for that for a few decades, right? The glaciers have been melting for over 10,000 years (which is why we can live here...it was under a mile of ice). And they will continue to melt, until the trend reverses, and we return to the next glacial period. Take a look at this graph. Notice anything about the length of this current interglacial? It's longer than normal, which means we are overdue for a return to the next glacial, which will be disastrous for humans. It's also not as warm as the peaks of the last interglacials, despite all the human CO2.
Like I said believe what u like I could care less.
QUOTE=DamageInc;464401]So you are aware that ice coverage in Antarctica is at record levels, right? And you are aware that we only have data for that for a few decades, right? The glaciers have been melting for over 10,000 years (which is why we can live here...it was under a mile of ice). And they will continue to melt, until the trend reverses, and we return to the next glacial period. Take a look at this graph. Notice anything about the length of this current interglacial? It's longer than normal, which means we are overdue for a return to the next glacial, which will be disastrous for humans. It's also not as warm as the peaks of the last interglacials, despite all the human CO2. View attachment 58597 [/QUOTE]
QUOTE=DamageInc;464401]So you are aware that ice coverage in Antarctica is at record levels, right? And you are aware that we only have data for that for a few decades, right? The glaciers have been melting for over 10,000 years (which is why we can live here...it was under a mile of ice). And they will continue to melt, until the trend reverses, and we return to the next glacial period. Take a look at this graph. Notice anything about the length of this current interglacial? It's longer than normal, which means we are overdue for a return to the next glacial, which will be disastrous for humans. It's also not as warm as the peaks of the last interglacials, despite all the human CO2. View attachment 58597 [/QUOTE]
Obviously you care, or you wouldn't have replied. Also, saying that you "could care less" implies that you do care. You might try saying "I could not care less".
You’re a scientist and an English major?
Google Antarctica ice coverage in 1979 and today.
Then crawl up under the rock you’ve obviously been living under and get a clue.
MQUOTE=DamageInc;464407]Obviously you care, or you wouldn't have replied. Also, saying that you "could care less" implies that you do care. You might try saying "I could not care less".[/QUOTE]
Google Antarctica ice coverage in 1979 and today.
Then crawl up under the rock you’ve obviously been living under and get a clue.
MQUOTE=DamageInc;464407]Obviously you care, or you wouldn't have replied. Also, saying that you "could care less" implies that you do care. You might try saying "I could not care less".[/QUOTE]
LMAO, do you even know the difference between Arctic and Antarctic? You originally claimed that "records in Antarctica were being set on a yearly basis", and now you are posting about the Arctic. Let me help, since you clearly don't know anything about this: Arctic is the north pole; Antarctic is the south pole. Arctic ice has been decreasing in recent years, and Antarctic ice has been increasing in recent years. We have only had satellite data on them for a few decades, so anything beyond that (for ice coverage) is anecdotal.
So yes, please go on embarrassing yourself. And please tell us more about how you don't care.
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And if you are wondering why the disparity between north pole and south pole, remember that the north pole is floating sea ice, and the south pole is land surrounded by ocean. There has also been a lot of geothermal activity on the Arctic sea bed in recent years. All that geothermal venting warms the water. Then as the ice shrinks, there is more sunlight absorbed, and we have a feedback loop increasing the ice loss.
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See last post. You are wrong.
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There's a theory that the polar bear emissions have increased drastically over the years based on their now access to the chi chi's on line ordering menu thus creating a larger hole in the ozone layer over the Arctic... During this period to the south it seems the Penguins have been still stock pile'n ice cubes based on Al Gore global warm'n announcement on the Internet he created...
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TIMO...he's no scientist dude...because THIS ^^^^...is not why the ice shrinks...every REAL scientist knows this...its the black dust that increased from burning stuff and the warming blows dried soil from areas that are now having a drought....that is THE SINGLE MOST FACTOR
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stick to helping fr nash dude
That's just one factor among many, and most of the Arctic does not look dark like that.
You should stick to subjects you know about, like making sandwiches at Subway.
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The process in the Arctic will accelerate as more water is exposed. The ocean currents will be able to move warm water around in places it has not been for eons which will speed the melting even more. Especially in the summer. Duh. And then yes the ocean levels will go up. Also Duh. When the polar ice cap is gone it will have a huge effect on the weather of the lower 48 states. Much of our weather originates in the arctic. That is much more concerning than anything else. But it won't be particularly concerning for me because I will be dead. Actually it could be good for snowmobiling. Instead of Lake effect snow there will be ocean effect snow as the cold winter air swoops over the arctic circle where there used to be ice. It will load up the clouds and dump salty snow on the lower 48 like never before. The ground will gradually be sterilized by the salt so nothing will grow any more. There wont be any land to farm and all food related industries will go away. Which will give a whole bunch of people more time to ride. On the salty snow. Until they starve to death. There is a silver lining in everything.
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haha...go peruse the interwebs and you will quickly find out that all snowy places are experiencing dark dust on top of the snow in enormous amounts causing melting...Greenland...Iceland....Alaska....both arctics.....alps....Siberia.....and many more....and while your at it....look up lake poopo....and others that are dried up now.....and you might have a revelation....then get back to us...again...focus on the dust and where it might come from and how much....DOH
https://news.nationalgeographic.com...livia-dried-out-el-nino-climate-change-water/