Yamaha Oil Changes

heitz66

Member
I have 2 Yamaha sleds and have changed the oil every season with full synthetic. I am only putting around 500 miles per season on each sled. My question is do I really need to change the oil every season or can you go every 2 or 3 seasons without changing the oil.
 

gary_in_neenah

Super Moderator
Staff member
It's a personal choice. You might skip a year due to low mileage but I wouldn't go 3. Also, you may have only 500 miles on the current oil but the next year with the same oil you may put on 2500 miles. Now you're dancing with the Devil.
 

eao

Active member
Moisture is the enemy especially with low mileage vehicles, with temperature change and corrosion. Change at least yearly.
 

legend02

Active member
Moisture is the enemy especially with low mileage vehicles, with temperature change and corrosion. Change at least yearly.


I bought a new sled at the end of January last year, only got to ride it the day I bought, it has 128 miles on it, I planned on changing the oil before I rode it this year or at least after the first trip
 
G

G

Guest
I read somewhere that the best time to change the oil is at the end of the riding season. That way the motor gets to sit all summer in fresh oil free of any corrosive junk or moisture that might have been in the used oil. Makes sense when you think about it.
 

mikedrh

Member
Nobody but you can give any accurate advice about when you should change your oil and/or filter. Filters that last 12,000 miles? Filters will last right up to the point when it plugs and causes all the oil to go thru the bypass. No crap into the motor from the outside = no crap in the filter. Engine wear causing the filter to plug = big problems, problems so big a filter will be the least of your worries. If your smart about what goes in your motor filters could possibly last the life of the machine. Warm the motor up in the fall. Look closely at the oil and if it looks the same as when you poured it out of the bottle leave it alone. Even a very small amount of moisture will give the oil a cloudy look to it. Cheap insurance? Don't want to take any chances?...........etc? Then why not change it after every ride?
 
T

Tracker

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any questions about filters and how long they last or how good they are at filtering or built you go to BOB'S THE OIL GUY web site....he cuts open all filters and runs tests on them...IF that filter is made by WIX then its good to reuse...maybe once...I would not...but if another manu made it...it might not even pass mustard in the first place...there is probably several different factory yami filters made by different manus IMO...but not 100% sure since I don't have a yami but check for yourself....but my vote is....NEVER...EVER...REUSE ANY FILTER...thus the name....FILTER....there is a reason they are made disposable and not out of honey comb aluminum or something reuseable...heres to his power sports section....ask someone like bob that actually has tested this before you do it and toast yer yamamhama...me 2c

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/forums/28/1/power-sports
 

mrbb

Well-known member
I think we are all sort of brain washed into thinking we need to change oil a lot more often than we do on things that get little use
the fear of condensation and such, I would bet are pretty low
I know a bunch of guys that NEVER change oil, just add as needed and get 200k out of there vehicles motors and never have a motor issue
I think there nuts doing this, but they been doing it for 30+ yrs and no changing them LOL

the way I see it is like this
oil is still pretty cheap, this sport is NOT so cheap, and its super short
I try my best to do all I can to lower the odds of me having down time in my season(here its half of what many have , total 800 miles last yr ??)
so, for me I do a once a yr oil /filter change on my XF 7000 (yamaha motor) not cause I think I need it, just to MAYBE lower the odds of something going wrong!
its 50 bucks, and a small amount of money in the big picture of what this sport costs me each yr LOL!
but sure an extra 50 bucks in my pocket wouldn;t hurt any either!
your call , your sled!
 
Frequent oil changes are all a myth guys. I have a 2001 Yamaha Wolverine that I bought new in October 2000. It gets used around the yard and lake for doing small projects and the occasional ride to the local watering hole. I've changed the oil 3 times in 18 years I've owned it. The thing starts right up and runs like a champ and never misses a beat.
 
G

G

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The oils we have nowdays are heads and shoulders better than the stuff we had to choose from 30 years ago. There are also rec vehicle engines that are a lot more tolerant than others about what you put in to them. I remember a guy who used to put Pennzoil in his oil injected Indy Trail. It ran fine. The single biggest reason I like to change oil in my sled is condensation. My sled lives inside where it is 65 degrees when I am not riding it. So the potential for condensation is greater than for a vehicle that might just be used in the summer months. The motor in my sled spins at 8 grand. The motor in an Apex spins at 12 grand. This is a little different than a workhorse motor that spins at 5 grand. For me oil is cheap insurance. But to each their own.
 

srt20

Active member
Has anyone ever checked their oil for condensation? Or checked for condensation inside of their engine?

I have a SBC race engine that has sat in an unheated garage for 12 years, with no heads or intake on it. No moisture, No rust. I do have a garbage bag over it.
 

old abe

Well-known member
The temperature changes gradually in a unheated building generally. Warm, operating temp engines cool down cycle is when the condensation happens. The difference in the warm to cold temp/time creates the condensation. I don't like to look in my Poo Rangers dry sump oil tank for this reason. Oils of today as grub stated are sooooo much better as to handle adverse situations such as condensation, than in past years, 4 stroke, and 2 stroke. But oil only has the ability to be able to handle so much, and that's the limit. I totally agree with grub in that oil is very cheap insurance against failure. To each his own.
 

srt20

Active member
The temperature changes gradually in a unheated building generally. Warm, operating temp engines cool down cycle is when the condensation happens. The difference in the warm to cold temp/time creates the condensation. I don't like to look in my Poo Rangers dry sump oil tank for this reason. Oils of today as grub stated are sooooo much better as to handle adverse situations such as condensation, than in past years, 4 stroke, and 2 stroke. But oil only has the ability to be able to handle so much, and that's the limit. I totally agree with grub in that oil is very cheap insurance against failure. To each his own.

Have you seen water in your dry sump tank?
 

gary_in_neenah

Super Moderator
Staff member
I just changed the oil for the first time on our Yamaha Wave Runner last weekend. It's the TR1 Triple and according to the manual and the dealer you don't have to remove all the old oil. Only about half or 2 quarts can be vacummed from the Fill port. Yamaha tells us just to replace the same amount of oil you remove and that's it. After a search on the internet I found a way to remove the remaining oil from the sump but according to Yamaha that's not necessary. that was something new to me and thought it worth sharing.
 

BobRoss

New member
I vote for the change filter at least every other year if that low of miles, but at least change the oil once a season. Oil is recommended to be changed by either a mileage or a time schedule especially in harsh conditions like winter.
 
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