1.5 ripsaw or 1.75 ripsaw?

gogebic_sledder

gogebic_sledder

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My track is trashed on my 600 etec gade. Time to upgrade, I love the ripsaw 1.25 but I want more. My question is how much different is the 1.5, is it a noticeable upgrade. Or should I just go with the 1.75. Please don't bring up a different 1.75, I do a lot of trail riding. I don't think the challenger lite is for me, too off trail-oriented. I ride probably 60% on trail. I'm putting way to much thought into this, I just don't want to put on a 1.5 and not notice any change. Or put a 1.75 on and regret it. Anybody have any experience with these tracks on a renegade 600. I need to drop this thing off at Timberline Sports and get it over with.THX
 
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snoluver1

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gogebic_sledder said:
My track is trashed on my 600 etec gade. Time to upgrade, I love the ripsaw 1.25 but I want more. My question is how much different is the 1.5, is it a noticeable upgrade. Or should I just go with the 1.75. Please don't bring up a different 1.75, I do a lot of trail riding. I don't think the challenger lite is for me, too off trail-oriented. I ride probably 60% on trail. I'm putting way to much thought into this, I just don't want to put on a 1.5 and not notice any change. Or put a 1.75 on and regret it. Anybody have any experience with these tracks on a renegade 600. I need to drop this thing off at Timberline Sports and get it over with.THX
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If you ride 60% trail I would go with the 1.5". You will notice the difference, although it probably won't be a "night and day" difference. At 1.5" your starting to push the limits without running scratchers at all times. At 1.75" you would definitely need to run scratchers, and would need to keep your top speed down on hard pack, to avoid spitting lugs off.
 
gogebic_sledder

gogebic_sledder

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snoluver1 said:
If you ride 60% trail I would go with the 1.5". You will notice the difference, although it probably won't be a "night and day" difference. At 1.5" your starting to push the limits without running scratchers at all times. At 1.75" you would definitely need to run scratchers, and would need to keep your top speed down on hard pack, to avoid spitting lugs off.
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I'm on dootalk a lot, and it seems that everybody on the renegade forum has no problems with 1.75 without scratchers. The sled never leaves western UP and the Keweenaw, so conditions are usually good. I'm more concerned with the characteristics of a 1.75 on trail. Thanks for the reply.
 
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MZEMS2

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I had the Ripsaw 1.25" with 96 studs. It hooked up great and handled great. Not sure if studs are an option for you. I resisted a long time, but then when I did it, I was pretty impressed with the difference. I do all trail riding.
 
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Noodles

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1.75 ripsaw on trail is pretty aggressive.1.5 gets the job done.The backcountry track has stiff lugs also.
 
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anonomoose

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I do 50:50 perhaps a bit more off trail...with a 2 inch track...and it works fine. Where you will really notice the difference is off trail where you can't have too much lug.

I never use scratchers, but I rarely run in hardpack or ice.

I am not familiar with the ripsaw but I can't imagine that you could do too much harm by going with the 1.75 and running trails...and I would never go back personally to anything less than a 2 inch lug which is great for midwest riding and off trail conditions. If I were running endless powder I would go with even more and wider front skis. If I were going all trail riding, then you can go down to a 1 inch lug and be fine.
 
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I had a 1.25 on my FST from the factory, and after 7k miles, needed to change the track. I was talked in to the 1.5 and did notice a difference, but the biggest issue was I lost quite a bit of top end speed. If you are concerned about top end speed at all, go with the 1.5 as the 1.75 will take even more off. I now have an Adventure, which is targeted towards both trail and some off trail, and it comes with a 1.352" lug. I don't think you need a 1.75 unless you are riding 60% or more off trail.
 
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tbone99

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1.5 intense is a awesome track but won't fit a xp without changing drivers. It's 2.52 vs 2.86. I just installed a backcountry x 1.75 on my 800r can't wait to feel the difference. I had a cobra 1.35 or whatever it is and sold it. The cobra is hands down better then any ripsaw. I would go cobra or backcountry x.
 
gogebic_sledder

gogebic_sledder

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Does any body have any experience with the backcountryX 15x137x1.75.how is it on trail? Every year I ride more and more off trail. But I still want to be able to run trail 102 and 11N without burning up hyfax. Is the backcountryX as aggressive as the challenger lite(PowderMax). Thx
 
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renegade

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I have run a 1.75" lug track for mostly trail riding and neve had any problems with anything. If conditions are bad enough to overheat a 1.75 it will most likely overheat a 1.25, the same for hyfax wear. Try it, thats the only way you will know if you like it or not. The biggest differance on trails is nobody wanted to follow me! Lol
 
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gogebic_sledder

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renegade said:
I have run a 1.75" lug track for mostly trail riding and neve had any problems with anything. If conditions are bad enough to overheat a 1.75 it will most likely overheat a 1.25, the same for hyfax wear. Try it, thats the only way you will know if you like it or not. The biggest differance on trails is nobody wanted to follow me! Lol
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Thanks for the help. I've read way too much negative reviews about the ripsaw 1.75 so that one is out. Now I'm between the XC pro 1.75 and backcountry X 1.75. The only real thing I'm concerned about now is will my 600 etec gade turn into a turd trying to turn a 1.75 lug? If I go this route I will regear to 600 renegade backcountry specs. Does any body know the top end of a 600 etec gade backcountry? I know I'll never see 100 on the dream-o-meter again with the 1.75. But at least 90 right?
 
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79_srx

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Lost alot top end with 1.5 but good on hifaxs, 1.75 lost all top end and bad on hifaxs(but had low snow year) .As far as trail riding didn't notices a difference. to be onest the 1. was a good trail track went 5200mi same pair hifax. 1.5 and 1.75 kick up alot of snow dust to the point were no one wants to ride behind you. 08 xp 800
 
indy_500

indy_500

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79_srx said:
Lost alot top end with 1.5 but good on hifaxs, 1.75 lost all top end and bad on hifaxs(but had low snow year) .As far as trail riding didn't notices a difference. to be onest the 1. was a good trail track went 5200mi same pair hifax. 1.5 and 1.75 kick up alot of snow dust to the point were no one wants to ride behind you. 08 xp 800
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Good point i'm always the leader and nobody wants to ride behind me anymore with my 2" track when im running down the grade i turn around and theres just huge chunks of snow getting flung up in the air.
 
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markf419

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I went from a 1" predator to a 1.5 ripsaw a few years ago. Haven't had to change hyfax yet, but I notice no better traction or hook-up on trails or in fields compared to that 1" track. Only thing I've noticed is a big drop in top end, and even worse mileage from my 800 cat. :mad:
 
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anonomoose

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There are huge differences in the makes of each track, and the lug pattern will influence traction and how much snow gets flung round. Track for track, there is not a huge difference in speed as that comes down to rotating mass, so if you concerned about going one hundred miles per hour, then pay attention to weight of the track, otherwise, go with as much lug as you can buy and let the next guy behind you give you a bit more distance...as longer lugs will spit the snow more.
 
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(TK) Mustard Bucket

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Ive had a studded 1.25 and a 1.75 on my reny. Never had the 1.5. Both tracks did fairly well off trail(for a shorter track) and both went over 100mph(800 tho). Hyfx never really went down much in 3 years but wasnt racking up huge trail miles either.
 
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