1 trailer to do it all?

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mrbb

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HAHA< but a helmet is way better than NOTHING, at least it protects from drift landing on his head mostly! and is wearing long sleeves

I find VERY very very few food plotters wear much safety gear when spraying, all just say Heck with it and go!, and I been guilty of this too LOL down to one lung now as is and well in hot weather cannot breath for nothing with a face mask on or like breathing device
tried many times and ended up giving up and letting the chemicals do there best to wipe me out! LOL
prefer spraying in an enclosed cab tractor, which is where I do most anymore!
 
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snobuilder

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mrbb said:
HAHA< but a helmet is way better than NOTHING, at least it protects from drift landing on his head mostly! and is wearing long sleeves

I find VERY very very few food plotters wear much safety gear when spraying, all just say Heck with it and go!, and I been guilty of this too LOL down to one lung now as is and well in hot weather cannot breath for nothing with a face mask on or like breathing device
tried many times and ended up giving up and letting the chemicals do there best to wipe me out! LOL
prefer spraying in an enclosed cab tractor, which is where I do most anymore!
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So you food plotters aren't exactly on the "organic" band wagon then?......that round-up give your trophy deer a nice sweet flavor?


LOL
 
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mrbb

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there is NO such thing as Organic anything any more, all the water we get and use is contaminated, and why you cannot just drink water any where, run off is unavoidable these days, and all water is mostly recycled water rains down goes back up LOL

Round up is and has been used a LONG time now, its on and in most foods you use and eat, when used RIGHT I don't for see any harm than anything else we have about that is in the form of chemicals deemed SAFE


and on a more clear note, I DON"T think in that pic, the person is spraying round up, I gather is more of a weed chemical to keep non wanted plants in the food plot
round up is basically a Burn down kill chemical when sprayed on any food plot that isn;t of a round up ready variety
I'd say it was something more like Post or Post plus or its likes being sprayed, but could be wrong as he is on the very outer edge of the plot and not in the middle of it LOL
I also spray chemicals all over my place to get rid of mosquito's and VERY happy doing so, in bad yrs like this one without doing so, you would be a quart short after 10 minutes outside! HAHA!
 
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saber1 said:
https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/toxic-tort-law/monsanto-roundup-lawsuit/where-is-glyphosate-banned/ the US is always the last to ban anything im not ok with it being in our food chain and water.Its not safe. I Quit using it long time ago do a vinegar,salt and liquid soap mix works just as good although wouldnt be practical for large scale farming
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I think were all guinea pigs in the world today, and its all about just picking and choosing what you believe and or not, as to what they tell us is good or bad, and how little of it we all can actually avoid no matter what we like or don;'t like
pollution and chemicals are every where in every thing and NO way around it, the world is getting worse on clean anything and will ONLY get worse, and as things get worse, more and more chemicals and like things will be used to make them SAFE ENOUGH, and then they too will have side effects found later on and repeat
just watch and listen to any drug commercial today, and there are about or maybe more side effects than what they fix
again about picking what your evils are, its all bad
vinegar and slat have a LOT of bad side effect too, as do many soaps based on the make up of them
plus they give off run off that doesn;t mix all that well with many other things
I used to plant a lot of acres, chemicals made life easier and about the only way to make a profit, and well money os what drives most folks and the world for that matter, so I doubt anything will change the ways we and the world go forward with chemicals, more and more will be made to replace those they ban and repeat as the new one';s turn out to be as bad or worse LOL

on the bright side, look how much longer MOST folks live today than 30 yrs ago, or further back
so all these chemicals in use, seem to have a lot of good in them maybe not talked about! maybe they kill off certain illnesses without anyone knowing HAHA!(also while making new ones)
 
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Love this thread.
1. What kind of trailer do I buy? I have the same question, currently have 3
2. Best equipment to do deer plots, I do prefer the tractor
3. Use of herbicides, I am certified to do my own crops, life is short, please try to protect yourself and others. I have no idea what doing it wrong means but something makes my hair fall out
4. ?? Creative group here, we have politics and sports to cover yet.
 
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bogiewheel said:
Love this thread.
1. What kind of trailer do I buy? I have the same question, currently have 3
2. Best equipment to do deer plots, I do prefer the tractor
3. Use of herbicides, I am certified to do my own crops, life is short, please try to protect yourself and others. I have no idea what doing it wrong means but something makes my hair fall out
4. ?? Creative group here, we have politics and sports to cover yet.
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Should I use Amsoil in my tractor?


BTW hello neighbor!
 
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sjb

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Little update and thanks for the replies, especially looking at going custom. I stopped at my local trailer dealer to look at three options.

Option 1. Steel car hauler type trailer. 18' long, dovetail, ramps on back, dual axle brakes, led's. Looking right around $3K.

Option 2. Aluminum car hauler type trailer. Drop down gate, upgraded for additional weight, upgraded AL wheels, LED lights, 18', dovetail, dual axle brakes. ~$4900.

Option 3. 25' V nose enclosed trailer, custom built. 12" extra height, 2 extra hinges on back drop door, front drive off door, side door, LED lights inside and out, inside helmet storage, gas doors, 6 heavy duty D rings tied to stringers, stringers on 12" centers (I believe instead of 18"), dual axle brakes, upgraded wheels, dovetail (which will allow even more height for UTV's). ~$9500

Still not sure which way I am going to go. If I sell my current enclosed for ~$3500, I swing $6K and have the one trailer than can do it all. Less to maintain and a great trailer. But some downside - harder to tie down all implements and would be tough to load fertilizers.

If I go the car trailer route, more than likely go AL as they will last a lot longer. Rust is one of my biggest pet peeves. But down the road would still need to upgrade my enclosed due to running longer track sleds now.

Decisions................
 
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Tracker

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sjb said:
Little update and thanks for the replies, especially looking at going custom. I stopped at my local trailer dealer to look at three options.

Option 1. Steel car hauler type trailer. 18' long, dovetail, ramps on back, dual axle brakes, led's. Looking right around $3K.

Option 2. Aluminum car hauler type trailer. Drop down gate, upgraded for additional weight, upgraded AL wheels, LED lights, 18', dovetail, dual axle brakes. ~$4900.

Option 3. 25' V nose enclosed trailer, custom built. 12" extra height, 2 extra hinges on back drop door, front drive off door, side door, LED lights inside and out, inside helmet storage, gas doors, 6 heavy duty D rings tied to stringers, stringers on 12" centers (I believe instead of 18"), dual axle brakes, upgraded wheels, dovetail (which will allow even more height for UTV's). ~$9500

Still not sure which way I am going to go. If I sell my current enclosed for ~$3500, I swing $6K and have the one trailer than can do it all. Less to maintain and a great trailer. But some downside - harder to tie down all implements and would be tough to load fertilizers.

If I go the car trailer route, more than likely go AL as they will last a lot longer. Rust is one of my biggest pet peeves. But down the road would still need to upgrade my enclosed due to running longer track sleds now.

Decisions................
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just a word to the wise...I have car haulers...tractor haulers big and small....and a 4 place open top for sleds that's AL...the others are steel....so in a pinch we load the smaller tractors and all manners of supplies including shingles and bricks in small loads onto the sled trailer...what happens and this will definitely happen to your custom enclosed if you plan the same thing....the welds on the ALuminum all broke and some point in time from doing this....we even load with a forklift to eliminate the stress on ramp and or the welds on beams and center the load over the dual axles and only load it to capacity or under....3000 pounds or less....it was a PIA to lift the entire 24 foot trailer into the air with a crane to reweld all the seams and junctions...would be 10 times harder with an enclosed....the tractors will make it come apart....there is no good 1 does it all trailer....unless you go big and spend cash....no cheap way out as you seek....I now use them separately...tractors and heavy loads on the haulers...sleds/atvs/6 seater SxS/jetskis/toys and small loads all go on flatbed (ex. fertilizer)....it was not easy getting it into a shop with a 10 ton crane and then a welder to weld underneath it and we even had to turn it 90 and upside down to weld it all up again....not gonna do that again...I even put on 3/4 marime plywood to strengthen it from the factory 1/2...welds still broke...granted this was in 100,000 miles plus but still something to think aboot since you will be spending 10 grand or more...save some cash and get a used hauler and a nice sled trailer for under 10....my 2c....it is what it is...there is no easy way out or... WE ALL WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING...good luckski

PS...most trips were 1100 miles trip total on average for toys and tractors go 200 miles roughly round trip
 
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mrbb

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Tracker said:
just a word to the wise...I have car haulers...tractor haulers big and small....and a 4 place open top for sleds that's AL...the others are steel....so in a pinch we load the smaller tractors and all manners of supplies including shingles and bricks in small loads onto the sled trailer...what happens and this will definitely happen to your custom enclosed if you plan the same thing....the welds on the ALuminum all broke and some point in time from doing this....we even load with a forklift to eliminate the stress on ramp and or the welds on beams and center the load over the dual axles and only load it to capacity or under....3000 pounds or less....it was a PIA to lift the entire 24 foot trailer into the air with a crane to reweld all the seams and junctions...would be 10 times harder with an enclosed....the tractors will make it come apart....there is no good 1 does it all trailer....unless you go big and spend cash....no cheap way out as you seek....I now use them separately...tractors and heavy loads on the haulers...sleds/atvs/6 seater SxS/jetskis/toys and small loads all go on flatbed (ex. fertilizer)....it was not easy getting it into a shop with a 10 ton crane and then a welder to weld underneath it and we even had to turn it 90 and upside down to weld it all up again....not gonna do that again...I even put on 3/4 marime plywood to strengthen it from the factory 1/2...welds still broke...granted this was in 100,000 miles plus but still something to think aboot since you will be spending 10 grand or more...save some cash and get a used hauler and a nice sled trailer for under 10....my 2c....it is what it is...there is no easy way out or... WE ALL WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING...good luckski

PS...most trips were 1100 miles trip total on average for toys and tractors go 200 miles roughly round trip
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Tracker I fully agree with you for once LOL

WAY better idea to again have a open place trailer for heavier things an save a enclosed for the lighter duty toys
odds are the cost of having two nice trailers will be less than the costs of one custom built trailer that in the end, I think you will end up wanting a second trailer down the road any how?
 
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sjb

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Tracker and MRBB - you guys have me thinking. So I thought I could custom build a 1 trailer for all, but knowing metals at least enough to be dangerous, and hearing your story Tracker, has me second guessing. I would hate to spend $10K just to go through what you did.

With Aluminum, when you heat it, it becomes weaker versus steel. So is the open car hauler type aluminum a bad idea to haul a small tractor around? Are these built better than an enclosed trailer? Just better off going steel? I just hate rust - and it appears all car hauler types have rust on them within 5 years.
 
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snobuilder

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Whatever you buy, don't leave any fertilizer in an enclosed trailer for an extended period of time. Even in a sealed bag, it has very corrosive affects on all metals.
 
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Tracker

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mrbb said:
Tracker I fully agree with you for once LOL

WAY better idea to again have a open place trailer for heavier things an save a enclosed for the lighter duty toys
odds are the cost of having two nice trailers will be less than the costs of one custom built trailer that in the end, I think you will end up wanting a second trailer down the road any how?
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holy shizolies MRBB...I just posted a screen shot of you admitting agreement so that it shows up on facebook year after year reminding me of this special event dude...LMAO...now if I could only get you to watch this and see what you think on this...and remember...the bible says ezekials sons...one was hairy and one was smooth...and this will show you that one is little and one was giant...its not some bear by the way...and they are alive today....this is on NOVA and all science channels incase you want to double check me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMBlG-BaOEs


PS....don't mean to hijack dare OP
 
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mrbb

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I think a really GOOD aluminum HD trailer would last a long time, but the costs might not make it worth while
as steel trailers can be had for a lot less $$

they dump a LOT of road salt here and that chemical they spray, a GOOD HD equipment trailer here still last 10+yrs without looking too bad, but brakes can be a issue at times, the key is getting a really good steel trailer that is coated well, and if you can stay on top of rust as it starts,
I get my sisters kids in the summer time to paint them, there small they an stand up and paint most of it and they get a nice reward for doing it for me!
its a 14 ton trailer, deck over, way more than you need but I picked it up used for $1800 bucks almost like new condition, its been used for so many things over the yrs it not even funny, from hauling sheds, to boats to trucks to skid steers and tractors and so on, its earned its keep many times over

and honestly I like the wood decking over solid metal flooring on trailers like this, just more uses IMO

the key if possible when parking a trailer is to park them on a cement pad, something that doesn't hold water, like just parking them on dirt or grass or even gravel
allowing air flow to get around them on s hard surface that drys fast makes a big difference in how fast rust forms or not!
and as always if used in mud or salt, a good washing/cleaning, many guys here spray down trailer with oil(cheap pre mix oil) to get into nooks and corners and swear it makes them last, but also makes dust stick and build on the oil ?
but like all things, how you care for things makes a big difference in how long something lasts or not
but I would always rather an open place trailer to haul equipment on!, just due to the more options of how to carry it and what ever else gets used with it!

watch local auctions, be surprised how many go for sale at them and many times pretty cheap too!
 
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Tracker

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sjb said:
Tracker and MRBB - you guys have me thinking. So I thought I could custom build a 1 trailer for all, but knowing metals at least enough to be dangerous, and hearing your story Tracker, has me second guessing. I would hate to spend $10K just to go through what you did.

With Aluminum, when you heat it, it becomes weaker versus steel. So is the open car hauler type aluminum a bad idea to haul a small tractor around? Are these built better than an enclosed trailer? Just better off going steel? I just hate rust - and it appears all car hauler types have rust on them within 5 years.
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well one thing I do to prevent or slow this is my sled trailer is stored inside a heated warehouse until needed....the haulers are outside and take a huge beating....but we paint it every other 3 years or so...so the rust don't take hold or corrode it very much....I use L.A. TOTALLY AWESOME on me sled trailer to get red iron from U.P. off after a trip to keep aluminum clean and shinny...and the aluminum cracks easier because the load is not centered...ex. you might have one sled on front of one corner...now this bends the aluminum back and forth with weight on one corner for 8 hours at 70mph or better...now add in some potholes and speed bumps...for hours...now add in 100,000 miles plus...walla...cracks....a hauler centers the load better and less flex over the road
 
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mrbb

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Tracker said:
holy shizolies MRBB...I just posted a screen shot of you admitting agreement so that it shows up on facebook year after year reminding me of this special event dude...LMAO...now if I could only get you to watch this and see what you think on this...and remember...the bible says ezekials sons...one was hairy and one was smooth...and this will show you that one is little and one was giant...its not some bear by the way...and they are alive today....this is on NOVA and all science channels incase you want to double check me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMBlG-BaOEs


PS....don't mean to hijack dare OP
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and sorry to OP But what does this have to do with anything?
18000 yrs ago little people were live? in a rare place in small numbers?
I see no evidence that it shows BIG foot is still walking the face of the earth or little people, even they say its a very unlikely event! there words not mine?/
but I tend to agree with them on odds are low, these little people are hiding out in a cave today!
just as I doubt Big foots are around the world and hiding on us!
 
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Tracker

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ok but you didn't watch it again....I can tell by your response...and those little people were filmed and they do exist today....here...then back to trailers....unlikely event...LOL...yet everyone sees them all the time...too funny...it clearly shows them...its only 3 minutes to learn a lifetime of knowledge if you desire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOC_Wz7cOSw
 
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mrbb

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Tracker said:
ok but you didn't watch it again....I can tell by your response...and those little people were filmed and they do exist today....here...then back to trailers....unlikely event...LOL...yet everyone sees them all the time...too funny...it clearly shows them...its only 3 minutes to learn a lifetime of knowledge if you desire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOC_Wz7cOSw
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OK I'll play a little here Tracker,
and your wrong again , as I did watch the video, they even started off with its a STORY! t! COULD IT BE POSSIBLE, ??
and then at 10;59 there one expert stated NO there not still currently walking, then again another expert or?? so they seem to want to be known as experts! on this stuff?? at 11;33 stated NO there not still running about! but plan to keep looking any how LOL
and they DID mention that ONE scientist did state he seen them but wouldn't give his name as fear of being laughed at, which , since EVEN he couldn;t prove he seen them, well, odds are was right about one thing, he would have been laughed at for sure by his peers that seems to think the have not been around for 12000 yrs or so LOL
so before you say I didn;t watch something you have NO clue if I did or didn;'t ,as your physic abilities to read into words on a screen by me,(and not just taking what I wrote for what I wrote, you seem to want to make something more out of things at times>)
them physic's abilities of your's are a little off LOL or the will and desire to have others believe things you believe are clouding your powers LOL

all good in good fun here or I hope so,a s its how I mean things


and again a Sorry to the OP here!
but I DO agree with tracker, its all the miles pot holes and how a trailer gets loaded that tends to weaken aluminum more than a steel trailer, or maybe just weakens them faster, welds on aluminum are always the weak links due to how clean the surfaces MUST be to get good welds and well, we all know how much effort the average worker puts into there jobs these days??
pride in one's work is a dying trait if you ask me a shame, but sure seems true!
 
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