2012 Arctic Cat Clutch puller
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mjkaliszak
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how did the thread go in this direction ??? I'm still going over the PDI from AC and have to get a 60 Torx to check the clutch torque.
The clutch puller is different. A new style was phased in a few years ago. If you buy the puller from Cat it will be green for identification purposes. And yes you will need a torx driver.
The PDI is done by the dealer, why would the consumer be going over it again? No confidence in the dealer? Just want to tinker? Or did some unethical dealer sell you a crated machine? This alone is against dealer agreement rules and is reason for dealer termination. Just imagine the lawsuits if a consumer failed to secure the ski & it pealed off at 80MPH.
The PDI is done by the dealer, why would the consumer be going over it again? No confidence in the dealer? Just want to tinker? Or did some unethical dealer sell you a crated machine? This alone is against dealer agreement rules and is reason for dealer termination. Just imagine the lawsuits if a consumer failed to secure the ski & it pealed off at 80MPH.
He bought it a 1012 xf high country. brought it home then discovered ALL the high countries come clutched 6k to 8k.then had to go order the correct weights and springs. I think there is some dispute as to who's responsible to pay and install the correct set up.
hay Jeff how has the consumer testing on your dime for poo been working out for ya?
hay Jeff how has the consumer testing on your dime for poo been working out for ya?
As a dealer here in WI, I didn't order any HC models. I also wasn't aware that they were geared that way.
That all being said, Cat sets an MSRP for the sled (as built, stock) & the dealer prices it as he so chooses. We order the machines by model. That specs out the color, chassis & engine. Something like changing gears is an add on cost that would have needed to be negotiated at the time of purchase. It is not something that the dealer could have ordered as a factory installed item.
That all being said, Cat sets an MSRP for the sled (as built, stock) & the dealer prices it as he so chooses. We order the machines by model. That specs out the color, chassis & engine. Something like changing gears is an add on cost that would have needed to be negotiated at the time of purchase. It is not something that the dealer could have ordered as a factory installed item.
it is not the gearing that is in ? it is the clutching.
all the x fire high country's come with I think 6 to 8 k clutching.
so at the time of sale he should have been told this but was not.
so he has it in his garage waiting for snow, starts reading posts and finds out hay all high country are clutched for 6to 8 I better check in to this.
well if dealer would have disclosed this it would have been worked in to original deal.if dealer did not know this and they sent the 7 they sold out the door with out informing others they need to call them all and fix the issue.
what happens when all these flat lander's start running these things clutched for 6k all over revving just assuming this thing really pulles some high rpm thinking it must be correct it is a brand new sled (they are messing up unknowingly) is it covered under warranty after it pops or is it the consumers fault for not having it clutched for proper elevation for 3000 mi?
got to remember 80% of sled owners out there buy a sled buy the matching sute and helmet pull the rope and drive it till it dies never looking in to specs or anything just drive it.
it is the dealers responability to infore the buyer of what they are buying and what needs to be done to ride it at the elevation they want to ride it at.
all the x fire high country's come with I think 6 to 8 k clutching.
so at the time of sale he should have been told this but was not.
so he has it in his garage waiting for snow, starts reading posts and finds out hay all high country are clutched for 6to 8 I better check in to this.
well if dealer would have disclosed this it would have been worked in to original deal.if dealer did not know this and they sent the 7 they sold out the door with out informing others they need to call them all and fix the issue.
what happens when all these flat lander's start running these things clutched for 6k all over revving just assuming this thing really pulles some high rpm thinking it must be correct it is a brand new sled (they are messing up unknowingly) is it covered under warranty after it pops or is it the consumers fault for not having it clutched for proper elevation for 3000 mi?
got to remember 80% of sled owners out there buy a sled buy the matching sute and helmet pull the rope and drive it till it dies never looking in to specs or anything just drive it.
it is the dealers responability to infore the buyer of what they are buying and what needs to be done to ride it at the elevation they want to ride it at.
I looked & looked & finally found the clutch specs on the small dealer pocket flip chart that Cat provides for us. I cannot find anything in the catalog relating to this. I can also tell you that I do not remember ever hearing about this at the spring dealer's meeting. Perhaps if a dealer was to have talked to tech reps that were shall I say for the lack of a better term "assigned" to the HC model's display at the show he would have learned this.
All that being said, I didn't order any HCs and had no preseason inquireries/sales either. I did have one inquirery prior to Hay Days & I tried to find out if a machine would be there for viewing. I was unable to get a firm commitment if one would be there or not, production schedules would be close. I was not at Hay Days.
Typically, I install most accessories with no labor charge IF they purchase them with the machine AT THE TIME OF THE SALE, any items purchased later will have a labor charge. Due to the circumstances surrounding these clutches (that is assuming the customer was truely unaware) and due to the fact he was willing to buy the parts, I would install them at no charge. This would be a one time swap.
Just because this would be the way I would handle it, the selling dealer is under no obligation to do anything, the machine was delivered the way Cat built it.
Jim
All that being said, I didn't order any HCs and had no preseason inquireries/sales either. I did have one inquirery prior to Hay Days & I tried to find out if a machine would be there for viewing. I was unable to get a firm commitment if one would be there or not, production schedules would be close. I was not at Hay Days.
Typically, I install most accessories with no labor charge IF they purchase them with the machine AT THE TIME OF THE SALE, any items purchased later will have a labor charge. Due to the circumstances surrounding these clutches (that is assuming the customer was truely unaware) and due to the fact he was willing to buy the parts, I would install them at no charge. This would be a one time swap.
Just because this would be the way I would handle it, the selling dealer is under no obligation to do anything, the machine was delivered the way Cat built it.
Jim
Ezra, you're right.... My 800 high country came clutched for 6000 to 9000..70 gram... dealer didn't know that either. This is fine for me cause i probably wont ride it til jan 9 when we go to IP... the packet i got with my owners manual had the info for elevation... Yeah some riders wouldn't even know the difference.
yeah Kevin found out after browsing some forums.
cat was back ordered till mid Jan on low elevation kit speedwerx /D&D/bmp.etc etc had no testing time so no clutch kits out from them yet.dalten sold out of adjustabel cat weights.
but he did find 1 cat kit on the shelf at country cat.
now you can sit around depressed with the rest of us waiting for snow
cat was back ordered till mid Jan on low elevation kit speedwerx /D&D/bmp.etc etc had no testing time so no clutch kits out from them yet.dalten sold out of adjustabel cat weights.
but he did find 1 cat kit on the shelf at country cat.
now you can sit around depressed with the rest of us waiting for snow
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I had an altitude kit ordered for it at haydays this summer. I think the catalog said 5000 to 10000. As of last week they (speedwerx) were still testing out west. I cancelled it since i am already set up for it. I probably will just by a little heavier set of weights for around here or steal the 75s out of my 700,