Here we go again. Dealer just notified me to bring my Summit in for warranty campaign to replace rings and pistons so you might want to check if yours qualifies. At least it is before the season starts. Happy Skidoo is covering their problems but hate to think of running through break-in period again.
2012 e-tec 800 rings and pistons
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Are you sure that's not a Poo 800? 
Maybe we need to start a "Doo Problems" thread?! It's funny how you hear very little about this issue, but had it been Poo, it would have been non-stop bashing! It's a double standard, similar to the media and George W. and Barack O. IMO.
Maybe we need to start a "Doo Problems" thread?! It's funny how you hear very little about this issue, but had it been Poo, it would have been non-stop bashing! It's a double standard, similar to the media and George W. and Barack O. IMO.
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lenny
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Are you sure that's not a Poo 800?
your onto to something there Mark, although IMO I personally have not seen or heard of the problem nearly to the same degree. 800 e-tec not been out long enough to earn reputation but like you say, maybe we're in the infant stages. With the presidents,,you are dead on and what a shame hey?
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lenny
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Not sure if the 800 e has been around long enough to earn a bad rap. I cannot say for sure but it's possible doo is addressing the issue and taking responsibility before it becomes a full blown epidemic, I suppose time will tell.
Sorry for the double post, I received a pm , came back and post was gone,,my mistake
Sorry for the double post, I received a pm , came back and post was gone,,my mistake
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I couldn't resist the post Lenny! You know, I'm not sure exactly what year the 800 e-tec came out, but maybe someone can help us. I want to say 08 or 09, but just a guess. The CFI 800 hasn't been around long either. It is good that they are addressing the problem. Ski Doo isn't #1 for nothing.
You know, I'm not sure exactly what year the 800 e-tec came out, but maybe someone can help us. I want to say 08 or 09, but just a guess. The CFI 800 hasn't been around long either. It is good that they are addressing the problem. Ski Doo isn't #1 for nothing.I think doo has rightfully taken its share of bashing on there 800s over the yrs. kind of like flogging a dead horse at this point.
ok ok I will start if u insist
800 cranks have been junk as far back as the old 3cly and have not gotten any better with age.
but doo is the creator of the most successful long block program in the industry.
lets face it if 2 seasons went by with out hearing of a ring flaking issue recall u would be shocked.
now we can say doo is a innovator yes it is true most of the time it is out of necessity
like the long block program to the newest necessity to fix a seriuos handling issue in the deep the T motion.
ok who is next we can do 6 pages if we put our back in to it
ok ok I will start if u insist
800 cranks have been junk as far back as the old 3cly and have not gotten any better with age.
but doo is the creator of the most successful long block program in the industry.
lets face it if 2 seasons went by with out hearing of a ring flaking issue recall u would be shocked.
now we can say doo is a innovator yes it is true most of the time it is out of necessity
like the long block program to the newest necessity to fix a seriuos handling issue in the deep the T motion.
ok who is next we can do 6 pages if we put our back in to it
momoney2123
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I couldn't resist the post Lenny!
800 E-tecs came out in 2010.5 to the public...it was a early release model. They also gave anyone who bought an e-tec free piston and crank upgrades. My dad had a 2011 E-tec that never had a issue for 3500 miles but made him update anyway. I also have a 2011 800 E-tec that I havent updated yet and have had zero issues with it thru 2500 miles. After my dads update we were always a good race but his slowed significantly. The nice thing is Ski-doo allows me to update my 2011 all the way thru 2014 so i plan on selling it with paper work saying a brand new crank piston and rings to be installed even after I sell it. We have 5 800 E-tecs in our group without any issues so not sure what the problem ever was, some have the updates done and some do not. It seems whatever they have done they dont run as hard after update. The 2010.5 limted builds are supposedly the fastest.....
polarisrider1
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Lets start on the 800R and work our way into the etec. I have pages of stuff on the 800R. Mostly the bolt on stuff unbolting, clutches flying apart, etc.
Are you sure that's not a Poo 800?
To get a long thread, you need someone to take the other side. I don't think anyone is willing to do that for Doo.
Has anyone ever made a reliable 800? At least one that isn't florescent green?
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lenny
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dang,, you beat me to it but I did find this:
[h=3]2010BRP introduces new Rotax E-TEC 800R snowmobile[/h]In January BRP expanded its revolutionary E-TEC engine technology in Ski-Doo snowmobiles with the introduction of the much anticipated Rotax E-TEC 800R engine. This lightweight two-stroke engine uses sophisticated electronic injectors and a powerful central computer to deliver stunning improvements in performance, efficiency and ease-of-use. This engine debuts in the 2010 Ski Doo MX Z X.
polarisrider1
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we really need to give doo credit for stepping up to the plate on this. Poo could learn from it.
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lenny
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every manufacturer has it's die hards, loyalists and everyone in between. I have a hard time believing Polaris was singles out for no other reason than "poo envy" as Wayne would say. Just because there is a thread with Poo's problems doesn't mean we ought to start the same thing un-naturally on Doo.
We could find problems with all the makers and we do from time to time but as far as singling out poo with no justification, untrue! Scads of poo 800's in 09 were somewhat common, and still ocuring but getting better. Poo 800 was significantly worse than the doo 800r
We could find problems with all the makers and we do from time to time but as far as singling out poo with no justification, untrue! Scads of poo 800's in 09 were somewhat common, and still ocuring but getting better. Poo 800 was significantly worse than the doo 800r
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lenny
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omg,omg,omg
we need to frame this, make a sticky of waynes words. Wayne admitts something negative about poo,,,omg,,,omg
momoney2123
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LOL...Skidoo did do it right tho...no questions asked rebuild the engine at the discresion(miss spelled?) of the consumer. They prolly shoulda MADE me get the recall but at any time at my convenience i can get the engine work done. Gained a huge respect from me personally. for that alone i will ride with skidoo.
momoney2123
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made was the wrong word.....enduced would be proper....but at that time..who wouldnt want a brand new engine after 3500 miles
they told my bud the same thing. any time just bring it in
he only had 750 on it .
if he would have kept it prob would have just put 1 more season on it then had it done.
I was asking him if they would still cover out of Warranty. say U got your warning and did nothing planning on just logging more mi and having it done at end of season but blew hard mid season .will they say well we told u to have the work done in sept hear is the letter we sent U U neglected to have it done now it is on U.
he did not know answer any one know if they would still honor ?
If I owned a sled factory I would not honor if I gave 4 mo heads up.
thinking all letters would be going out citified mail
he only had 750 on it .
if he would have kept it prob would have just put 1 more season on it then had it done.
I was asking him if they would still cover out of Warranty. say U got your warning and did nothing planning on just logging more mi and having it done at end of season but blew hard mid season .will they say well we told u to have the work done in sept hear is the letter we sent U U neglected to have it done now it is on U.
he did not know answer any one know if they would still honor ?
If I owned a sled factory I would not honor if I gave 4 mo heads up.
thinking all letters would be going out citified mail
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firefighter1
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That's a good question Ezra. I have a 2011 800 etec with 1900 trouble free miles on it. I understood as long as I brought it in before the fall of 2014 the update would be be done warranty or not. I was planning on riding this season yet and having the engine done this spring. I'm going to make some calls and find out for sure what's going on. This is my first skidoo and etec, I love the engine. All manufacturers have issues at some point or another, this is the first time I can remember one standing up and saying its are fault and we will make it right. Stay classy Skidoo!
polarisrider1
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So Lenny, that's what it is all about (knew all along). All Manufacturers of all products have done things wrong. Some handle it worse then others. I truly believe that Poo has pretty much got a grasp on it now. They did lose their way with the Fusion and trying to make the 09 800 work on short notice, keep in mind Poo had to throw something into the sleds after the 900 fiasco. The first liberty motors guzzled oil (edge chassis era) Poo knew they needed that.. My 01 xcsp is still running fine with 18,900 miles on it.
We also know that Polaris has traditionally released sleds before all the bugs were out of them, rolling the dice that problems will be minimum and most the time the stock holders would win by this. Poo has had management changes over the years and brought in and listen to guys who really know what the sleds need to improve and also what the public want. Poo is smart in bringing improvements to the profitable areas such as Mtn. sleds, but have gotten a bit stupid on the sled weight obsession. But keep in mind Lenny, I have been in the sack with Poo since 1972 and there is loyalty there. But I did skirt Poo in 85 with a Yamaha SRV that loved gas. and in 2006 with Doo on a 600 Renegade that I really liked. So jumping ship is not an issue with me when skirting thru a mine field.
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lenny
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Great post Wayne, lots of good info there and some insight into your history with Poo. No doubt you can look at the big 4 and find issues. My intent has never been to unduly single out poo and bash them, I believe I have not done that. Now, I may have a little fun at the expense of your kind but not in a mean spirit.
Poo leads the Mtn market and rightfully so. Yamaha is in last place in the steep and deep technical aspect of Mtn riding. I think a guy couldn't go wrong with either of the big three in the Mtn department. Most of us will never be skilled enough to even push the sleds to the limits to see what it's all about, certainly not me. Nothing wrong with wanting the best but just how much better is something I often think about. It's just not that important to me to have the best,,right,,look what I'm riding. I mean I just bought a used rhino and could have spent the money on a mtn sled. My wife even gave me her blessing but I couldn't do it.