Last spring I purchase a 600 and 800 Etec tnts. Now I don't want to start an oil debate I just want to find out what oil did the sleds come with. the manual says either semi syn or full syn, but on both oil reserviors it says to use semi syn. I also purchased two starter kits which i didn't open until now. the kit comes with a belt, two plugs, a gallon of oil and some polish and rags. The problem again is the 600 kit comes with semi syn and the 800 kit full syn. I don't want to use two different oils so I will use with what ever came in them and standardize. Does anyone know, please help.
2012 Ski Doo E tec Oils
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misty_pines
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Not sure what your 600 etec came with (guessing semi-synth) but I know the 800 etecs come with full synthetic. If you want to use the same oil for both, I recommend going with the full synthetic. Those 600 etecs don't use much oil so very little money difference and they run great on full synthetic. BRP recommends full synthetic on the 800 etecs.
anonomoose
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You can't hurt the 600 by using full synthetic, but if you use the semi synthetic in the 800 you might cause issues if it is the recommended oil.
So to use one oil, you should use full synthetic in both. Since these machines don't use much oil anyway, why fool with anything other than full synthetic?
I talked at length with a lubrication engineer, who got paid to study these oils and he told me under no uncertain terms, that using dino oil when synthetics are now available is sort of like going to back to a carboration when EFI is available. Nothing compares....and it lubricates better at the end of it's life than dino oil does right out of the bottle.
So if you have a sled that was designed for it, why try to save a few bucks when it might cost you way more in engine wear?
So to use one oil, you should use full synthetic in both. Since these machines don't use much oil anyway, why fool with anything other than full synthetic?
I talked at length with a lubrication engineer, who got paid to study these oils and he told me under no uncertain terms, that using dino oil when synthetics are now available is sort of like going to back to a carboration when EFI is available. Nothing compares....and it lubricates better at the end of it's life than dino oil does right out of the bottle.
So if you have a sled that was designed for it, why try to save a few bucks when it might cost you way more in engine wear?
I agree with going with full syn, but why does my manual and the oil reserviors both say semi syn on both machines. I have heard people say not to run full syn in the 600s. Jeez why did i switch to ski doo --kidding. I also don't want to mix oils during break in so thats why I want to know which came in each sled.
I know there's the "great debate" and everyone has there own opinion and studies, but bottom line is that doo will not honor warranties on the 800 etec if doo synethetic is "not" used. Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but point is.............., when and if your 800 motor goes down (while under warranty), it will be much easier to turn it into the dealer having used their synthetic vs. arguing the point of "like" oils, and wasting more time going back and forth vs getting back up and going. Just my .02, but after speaking with 3 different doo reps on my 800 etec, the message was the same all around. (Use Doo's Synthetic blend on the 800 Etec).
Original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) often suggest in owner’s manual, advertisements or through dealership personnel that motorists and enthusiasts must use OEM-branded oil to comply with new vehicle or equipment warranty. Some OEMs include warnings of catastrophic engine failure should a non-OEM oil be used. These tactics are especially pervasive in the powersports market and are calculated to create uncertainty and fear in the consuming public to the point that many consumers feel they are at risk when using anything but OEM-branded lubricants. Generally, the public is unaware that it is illegal for a vehicle manufacturer to tie the warranty of its product to the use of the manufacturers own lubricant.
Federal law seeks to ensure competition within the marketplace and that specifically includes guaranteeing continued warranty coverage outside of the OEM-branded lubricants. In short, you have the right to use the oil of your choice.
If the lubricant did not cause the problem, the OEM warranty cannot be voided, period.<O
Federal law seeks to ensure competition within the marketplace and that specifically includes guaranteeing continued warranty coverage outside of the OEM-branded lubricants. In short, you have the right to use the oil of your choice.
If the lubricant did not cause the problem, the OEM warranty cannot be voided, period.<O
Original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) often suggest in owner’s manual, advertisements or through dealership personnel that motorists and enthusiasts must use OEM-branded oil to comply with new vehicle or equipment warranty. Some OEMs include warnings of catastrophic engine failure should a non-OEM oil be used. These tactics are especially pervasive in the powersports market and are calculated to create uncertainty and fear in the consuming public to the point that many consumers feel they are at risk when using anything but OEM-branded lubricants. Generally, the public is unaware that it is illegal for a vehicle manufacturer to tie the warranty of its product to the use of the manufacturers own lubricant.
Federal law seeks to ensure competition within the marketplace and that specifically includes guaranteeing continued warranty coverage outside of the OEM-branded lubricants. In short, you have the right to use the oil of your choice.
If the lubricant did not cause the problem, the OEM warranty cannot be voided, period.<O
Ok. Let's say that statements true. Who's going to argue that to BRP on my behalf, and how much back and forth is it going to take for them to accept it? Could be weeks or months before getting ironed out, which is less time on the snow for me rather than just using their oil, and knowing it's covered if needed. Just my opinion.
renegade2011
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I have a 2012 600 etec bought new this past spring and when was setup I had choice of full or semi synthetic I choose semi because it was,cheaper and more readily available.
snowfreak56
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X2....You can run the semi or the full synthetic they are both DOO oil and both are compatable with each other and will mix fine.Full synthetic has its pluses as does semi synthetic.This DOO oil deal has been well known for years.Run what you want but i would personaly prefer to break a motor in on a blend as the rings will seal faster and your Etec will last and run just as long on the semi as it will the full.I know some guys that have Etecs that have run nothing but AMS oil from day one and put 10,000 miles and more on with no oil related issues.Bottom line i would burn the oil that came in your kits in either sled and not have the least bit of concern and if you want to run full synthetic in both later it will be fine.Or if you decide to run the semi in both that will be fine also.Your choice and it will not cause your sled a issue.
X2 that being said I use BRP oil in my 150 Etec Outboard just does not use much so why worry about it just buy BRP oil. Outboards are bit different you have to set up for syn use & other oils not acceptable after the set up change so I stay with less expensive BRP oil which is compatiable with other oils that meet BRP spec. If using full syn after break in both engines will like it.
Ok thanks guys, I didn't want this to get into another oil debate as to which brand to use. I have used pretty much every brand out there and they all work well. I just wanted to know what came stock in each sled. I should have figured this would get a discussion going. I will run doo oil and the moneys not an issue either. I just find it funny that the manual says one thing, the kits come with different oils and the dealer tells me something else. I think i will stick with the semi syn because my brother in law uses it in his and its nice to standardize and keep it simple.
There you go Doo can't agree on their own oil lol.. don't over think as said use the BRP & enjoy the ride.