algoma snow train/canada trip

old abe

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Hey Hooser; Good report. Was wondering if you went, or not. I figured you'd have to hammer hard on it. You can do it up there. But I go to enjoy the ride, see the sights, an play. 200/250 miles, and done early, fits nice. Glad to see all went well, and everyone returned safe. You need to have good prep as to not spend time on repair, but do riding. Sounds as if you guys had a good dose of rain. That's a bummer, but it's that time of year. I plan to be up there next year!!!
 

euphoric1

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snow train cost

When the snow train was running does anyone know what the cost of per person with sled was for the trip? just curious, leaning towards just doing the 800 mile loop and skipping the train, not so sure if I want to take a 12 hour train ride with frequent stops going 35 mph
 

polarisrider1

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Plan 7 days. Rode from Drummond Island and back in that time. Drummond island across the ice to St. Joe island to searchmont, Halfway Haven, Wawa, Dubruilville, Hornpayne, Bambinos, Hearst and back. With a side trip to see Ernie in Missanabie.
 

polarisrider1

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Did the snow train once. It's like taking the lake Michigan car ferry when on a bike. Just ride it. That's why your up there in such a remote fantastic trail riding area. Speed limits are about liability. Never had it enforced on me. It is snowmobiling at another level. The Canadians are always way cool. Note: beer is sold at the beer store, not at every gas station like in Michigan, so some planning is involved. Lol.
 

Hoosier

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Hey Hooser; Good report. Was wondering if you went, or not. I figured you'd have to hammer hard on it. You can do it up there. But I go to enjoy the ride, see the sights, an play. 200/250 miles, and done early, fits nice. Glad to see all went well, and everyone returned safe. You need to have good prep as to not spend time on repair, but do riding. Sounds as if you guys had a good dose of rain. That's a bummer, but it's that time of year. I plan to be up there next year!!!

Yeah, I'd prefer to stick to 200/250 miles a day up there too. We just didn't have much time. Passed up a ton a spots that I would have rather explored than fly buy. You could easily burn 2 weeks up there if you didn't run out of money or get tired of the guys you are riding with.

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Did the snow train once. It's like taking the lake Michigan car ferry when on a bike. Just ride it. That's why your up there in such a remote fantastic trail riding area. Speed limits are about liability. Never had it enforced on me. It is snowmobiling at another level. The Canadians are always way cool. Note: beer is sold at the beer store, not at every gas station like in Michigan, so some planning is involved. Lol.

We got stopped once by the on-trail OPP this trip. Definitely came up on the intersection over 50 clicks an hour. They were fine. Just checked ID's and permits, checked our vins and BS'd for awhile. No issues.
 

euphoric1

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polarisrider1, Thank you I checked out website, looked at it before as well, navigated around a little and found the packages. Question is looking at the planned daily trips the mileage is pretty low and would make for short time on trails used to putting on around 250 or more miles a day, is there a lot of scenery to take up some time in the short mileage or are there any outer loops that can be taken off the main trail? im not one who likes to play in the powder, like to stay on trail. just figuring that im sure there aren't much road crossing or winding trails through woods so even if you averaged 40-50 mph on trails according to planned routes that makes for about 4 - 6 hours on trail taking stops into consideration. or do you want to avoid longer loops as gas stops are far and few and in between unless you carry fuel, and does anyone know if there are any fuel stops between planned stops to allow more trail riding. Guess I don't want to spend more time resting than riding.
 

old abe

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polarisrider1, Thank you I checked out website, looked at it before as well, navigated around a little and found the packages. Question is looking at the planned daily trips the mileage is pretty low and would make for short time on trails used to putting on around 250 or more miles a day, is there a lot of scenery to take up some time in the short mileage or are there any outer loops that can be taken off the main trail? im not one who likes to play in the powder, like to stay on trail. just figuring that im sure there aren't much road crossing or winding trails through woods so even if you averaged 40-50 mph on trails according to planned routes that makes for about 4 - 6 hours on trail taking stops into consideration. or do you want to avoid longer loops as gas stops are far and few and in between unless you carry fuel, and does anyone know if there are any fuel stops between planned stops to allow more trail riding. Guess I don't want to spend more time resting than riding.
Hey euphoric1; I would go to OFSC web site, and use the trip planner. Then you can access the local snowmobile clubs in the areas, or towns you are interested in riding to further refine your plans. Locals will be very helpful in lodging, gas availability, and eats, and any other questions you my have. They do love their snowmobiling! I'm thinking you want to travel town to town, as a planned trip. Once you go to Canada, you will return!!!
 

bearrassler

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just figuring that im sure there aren't much road crossing or winding trails through woods so even if you averaged 40-50 mph on trails according to planned routes that makes for about 4 - 6 hours on trail taking stops into consideration.

The speed limit is 50 kmh or about 30 mph. I have never been stopped in NW Ontario but it is something to keep in mind.
 

zrt600lc

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In 2004 my Wife and I did a Ontario trip. We trailered to Wawa first night Hornpayne they had premium gas. Day two Hornpayne to Kapiskasing Premium gas in Hearst and Kap. Day three Kap. to Timmins. Big town with Dealerships and premium gas. Day Four Timmins to Chapleau again premium gas and very nice hotel. Day five back to Wawa. The trails were great, it was COLD we went in early March and it was 25 below most mornings the trip was just shy of 900 miles. I'd Love to do it again.
 

polarisrider1

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In 2004 my Wife and I did a Ontario trip. We trailered to Wawa first night Hornpayne they had premium gas. Day two Hornpayne to Kapiskasing Premium gas in Hearst and Kap. Day three Kap. to Timmins. Big town with Dealerships and premium gas. Day Four Timmins to Chapleau again premium gas and very nice hotel. Day five back to Wawa. The trails were great, it was COLD we went in early March and it was 25 below most mornings the trip was just shy of 900 miles. I'd Love to do it again.

There you go! Makes for an awesome trip.
 

euphoric1

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First I wish to thank everyone for their ride experiences and information, secondly looks like this trip is a must do. Sounds like although the train might be nice to do once it is not the preferred way into Canada, not quite sure I want to ride on a train for 10 hours going 35 mph with frequent stops, I phoned the rail line and I guess the reason why they weren't running last year was because it was bought out but is expected to be running again this coming year, personally I could put on a lot of miles on the sled in that time frame, it also sounds like there are some good loop options right out of sault st marie or wawa . Is it true that trail speeds are 50kmh/30mph in Canada? doesn't seem right but maybe? again I thank everyone for their posts and look forward to hearing of other experiences as well
 

old abe

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First I wish to thank everyone for their ride experiences and information, secondly looks like this trip is a must do. Sounds like although the train might be nice to do once it is not the preferred way into Canada, not quite sure I want to ride on a train for 10 hours going 35 mph with frequent stops, I phoned the rail line and I guess the reason why they weren't running last year was because it was bought out but is expected to be running again this coming year, personally I could put on a lot of miles on the sled in that time frame, it also sounds like there are some good loop options right out of sault st marie or wawa . Is it true that trail speeds are 50kmh/30mph in Canada? doesn't seem right but maybe? again I thank everyone for their posts and look forward to hearing of other experiences as well

Don't be concerned as to the speed limit except around towns, or places that your speed would endanger someone, or something. Yourself included! We have never had a problem with the speed enforcement on any trip. You'll get what you ask for!!!! We cruise at what we deem safe, and enjoy ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

zrt600lc

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We never had an issue with speed. Never saw a law enforcement officer on the trails. We cruised at 55-60 mph. It was a great ride, I got most of the information I needed at the Michigan Snowmobile show in Novi the November before we went. Plan on it being COLD. We didn't have face shield heaters didn't really need them. Didn't have heated seats back then either.
 

old abe

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Milwaukee show always had good info also. We have seen various kinds of law enforcement while there. Only checked our permits, and ID's. They are very friendly folks.
 

euphoric1

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Thanks old abe, yes we go to the milwukee show every year and know they are present there but first hand accounts are always the best and got plenty of them and thanks to everyone for that. when show comes around again will visit booths and obtain trail maps if they are available or send for some and start doing some hard planning. We have been talking about doing this for years and enough talking...lets do it. Although I never get sick of the keewenaw and the scenery it has to offer, time to see and do something different. As far as being prepared, we aren't fair weather riders our group is always as best prepared as we can for any situation, you should always prepare for the worst because you never know what may be dealt or handed to you next and when playing in the wilderness you have to be. Thanks again to everyone and hope to see more personal feedback from others that have ridden there.
 
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