Anyone regret having sled with studs

[toddspolaris]

Never ride LP without them, Safety first for icy corners and braking, Never ripped a stud thru in 30 yrs of riding, that comes from abuse and how you ride. My buddies brand new 850 skidoo etech non studded against my 09 skidoo 600 etech studded, and he got smoked. and then he wanted to stud his ice ripper track but they advise not to do so with the ice ripper track. I like STUDS

 

[buddah2]

I've had half a dozen past sleds that were studded...equally, if not more, that weren't...I can take them or leave them...the only time ice is really a problem in our area is during spring thaw then the solution is simple...slow down a bit<br><br>I do like the lack of further damage to garage floor and trailer deck(s)

 

[Tracker]

Studs not needed anymore due to computer figuring out lug design optimization....6 seconds shaved Ice no studs

 

[snobuilder]

X 2! Stated perfectly! Gave studs up 45 years ago, nothing but problems then, and the same today. Tracks, heat exchangers, wheels, etc.<br>
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[old abe]

X 2! Stated perfectly! Gave studs up 45 years ago, nothing but problems then, and the same today. Tracks, heat exchangers, wheels, etc.<br>
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Yeah, well, couldn't let that one get passed up, eh! How's your riding been this winter? Good conditions close to home like us? Haven't had a winter/snow season like this one in 30 plus years! The best overall riding conditions I can remember. If ever there was a year to have it happen, this was it for sure!

 

[Garrett]

Has anyone taken studs out of a track?

 

[boyzni]

Two of my sleds that I bought used had studded tracks. When those tracks were at the end of their life cycle, I replaced them with Ice Cobra 1.6 tracks. Great compromise. Deeper lug and enough stud to help in the icy corners, parking lots, etc.

 

[kevinj]

Studs are **** on the clutch, belt, drivetrain, and engine. Not for me. Think about it, you hammer down and spin the track without studs and there is less resistance, then do the same thing with studs and you are trying to move 700 pounds (sled, fluids, and rider) instantly - that all goes back to the power source and all linkages to get it there. Now I have had a few times in my years of riding where I wish I had them, and then a few minutes later I am glad I didn't.

 

[skidoodoug]

It doesn’t bother me with or without but for wife and daughter I have em 2 each row up center my sled not usually I can ride it just fine up here in Vilas with no studs but I do only put them in for stopping and icy road crossings for the girls

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<br>Exactly---100% agree

 

[Snowaddict]

I have had with and without. After watching an incident a few years back that most likely wouldn't have happened if studs were on the sled, I decided any sled I own will have them. Wish I would've stuck to this when we purchased our most recent sled in December. Decided to go without for this season due to cost. Welp, expensive lesson learned again. And yes, I hate the marks in the driveway, garage, trailer, etc. Carbides do the same, however, and I see more of those marks on the driveway than the studs. For safety factor alone, it's worth it.

 

[russholio]

I've never had one without them, so I can't compare. So far all four of my sleds have had them (six if you count the wife's) and so far I don't regret having them. Probably close to 30,000 miles of riding and so far have avoided the bad things they say can happen (knock on wood). But I try not to spin the track, don't ride it like I stole it, and retorque them every year.

 

[pclark]

Actually love having a studded track, but you need to learn how to ride one just like one without studs. If you try and cross a highway and just pin it, you will most likely be tearing studs out of the track eventually and wearing your studs down. Too many people just don't know how to drive a sled or just drive like an *HOLE these days. When we groom it just pisses me off that the snow can't even set up before the rooster shots are seen at every stop sign. Either way, learn how to ride what you have, both are fine.

 

[mrbb]

Studs not needed anymore due to computer figuring out lug design optimization....6 seconds shaved Ice no studs

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<br>studs work plain and simple and add a level of safety<br> don't care what a computer says for lug size or amounts<br> or rider skill<br> you take two exact same sleds on ICE and see what one stops sooner and stays in better control<br> studs win hand s down, and is a FACT<br><br>
 SO< to say there NOT needed is not true in any way shape or form,<br><br> are they needed for everyone, NO< and this is why there an option and not mandated!<br><br> IMO< where you ride and what you prefer is all that matters , there both proven to make riders happy, with or without!<br><br>but no one can say they don;t add safer control on slick surfaces!<br><br> I doubt anyone wants sleds without carbides on ski's even folks that ride off trail seem to want them?<br>and why<br> cause they allow better control over steering<br> studs just add better control over track which makes whole sled more in control<br><br> use what you like, but don't dis credit what they are and can do!<br><br>

 

[renegade600]

My race sleds when i had them all had picks... my trail sleds I never studded.


When we bought my wifes 900Ace Renegade we bought it used with full studs. I left them on for a season, then when she ran it up our deck-over enclosed trailer we had at the time and when she ran it inside the garage and the carbides stuck to the floor, I got out the impact and removed them all......


While they are nice to have at times, my shop floors and trailer decking are much happier without them....

 

[wisco-mb]

Quite the variety of opinions.
I've used them with and without.

My preference is studded. Most importantly is braking for me. I always lead, so the sudden stopping factor is a must for myself.
I just put a hole in my front heat exchanger on my '17 800 2 weeks ago. Track had 5K on it, and had a double backer rip out. I hit something hard while I was trying to get it unstuck. Put partial blame on the damn Pro XC beaver tail skid on the Polaris. And some on me.
He welded it up, and new put a new track on.
My mechanic told me both times he had double backers rip out on him. He's done with the backers. He's on his 3rd track on his '15 800- 19K mileage.

I did try the Composit T32S (1.25″ pre-studded) this time. All the Camso Ice Attaks were not in stock.
So far, 300 miles on it. It does pretty well. I'm still going to stud the middle(84) though. Less maintenance there.

Items and materials are replaceable in live. Lives are not. I prefer the safer product.