bladder cancer chance if your a painter

thunderstruck88

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Professional painters have a dramatically higher risk of getting bladder cancer than people in other occupations, new research shows.

The longer a person works as a painter -- defined as someone who paints houses, construction sites and aerospace projects -- the greater the chance he or she will develop the illness later in life, according to the study. Artists and decorators weren't included.

Lead author Neela Guha of the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer, and her team analyzed nearly 3,000 cases of bladder cancer in painters reported in 41 different studies.

"This analysis convincingly shows that painters have a nearly 30 percent increased risk of developing bladder cancer compared to the general population," Guha told AOL Health in an e-mail. "This figure remained robust even after accounting for smoking history and other occupational exposures. The risk increased with increasing years of employment as a painter."

People who paint for a living are exposed to some of the same chemicals found in cigarette smoke, including aromatic amines, according to the research.

"Because several million people are employed as painters worldwide, even a modest increase in the relative risk is remarkable," the authors wrote in their study, published in Occupational and Environmental Medicine.

The significantly higher chance of developing bladder cancer was even evident after contributing conditions like genetics were taken into account, suggesting that painting professionally is, by itself, a risk factor for the disease.

Researchers said that female painters may be more prone to contracting the illness than males, but only a handful of the studies they analyzed separated results by gender.

What was clear from the findings, the authors said, is that the length of time people work as painters is linked to the likelihood that they will get bladder cancer, with those in the profession more than 10 years at a higher risk than those employed for less than a decade.

The study wasn't able to pinpoint specifically which chemicals and agents were responsible for painters' heightened chance of developing cancer of the bladder, since the participants analyzed were involved in different types of work and had varying levels of exposure to paint. The paints themselves also had different chemical compositions.

Guha offered advice to people currently working as painters.

"To reduce exposures, painters should work in wear clothing and gloves to minimize exposure to the skin, wear a mask and work in a well-ventilated environment," she said in her e-mail to AOL Health.
 

booondocker

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As a society that is positively corrupt with the use of chemicals in every segment of our lives, we are somehow oblivious to and startled by these sort of findings.

As a parent, and as a person who recognizes common hazards, I work constantly to avoid smelling and touching highly "chemicalized" products.

Here is a partial list of things that I "suspect" can be bad for you:

Hair sprays, hair coloring agents
Under arm deodorants
Fancy dish soaps
Perfumes
Many deodorant soaps
House hold sprays, such as furniture polish
and air borne air fresheners and plug-in odor cover substances

Spent and unspent engine oils, and greases
changing brake pads dust etc
Engine exhaust fumes
Plant fertilizers
Pesticides put on lawns and sprayed around the house
Fungicides sold at home depot
Bug repellents

Water treated by chemicals and delivered to you thru city water lines
Food that needs to be preserved for long shelf life, such as frozen foods, and meat preservatives (I cheat on this one and eat lunch meat and bacon...which are some of the worst offenders, but I like it and hold my intake down as much as possible)
All preservatives, except salt and sugar
Fast foods that get "the treatment" in areas you have little or no control over
Milk that is NOT organically processed
Margarines
Vegetable sprays
Microwave popped corn with inhanced odors and chemicals up the ying yang.



If you look at the chemical compounds in any of these above mentioned things you will recognize few of the natural things and so many compounds that have names that are 25 letters long, it is positively scary.

So I grow a garden, and use NO chemicals, and I eat as simply as I can, and of course I can't avoid all of these things nor can I avoid most of these things but I am aware of them, and I curtail the use of products that are ....at least to me, obviously an "unknown hazard".

But then this is just me....and NO I am not a freak...nor do I have a phobia about this...just using common sense, until the rest of the masses figure it out.

But once I hit 80 years, all rules are out the window, cause I wouldn't want to live forever!;)

Just remember YOU are WHAT you BREATH and EAT! Beating yourself up with things that can kill you .....will......kill you!
 
All I have to say is I never met a painter that didn't smoke. So, maybe it doesn't have anything to do with painting and has to do with the 15 minute smoke break every hour. One of the largest cancer conditions by smokers is bladder cancer BTW.

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switch07

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Aw nuts...I'm screwed, I eat side pork at the campground, I drink beer and sail with the Captain on a regular basis. I use under arm deodorant, take a shower with deodorant soap, and shave with chemical base shave cream. I love the smell of the exaust on my Harley and my Switchback. I drink milk from the jug, (when my wife is not looking) which I bought at a big box grocery store that has all of the above mentioned items that will kill me. This is the way I live and do not plan to change anytime soon......i guess I'm screwed....
 

700classic

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Aw nuts...I'm screwed, I eat side pork at the campground, I drink beer and sail with the Captain on a regular basis. I use under arm deodorant, take a shower with deodorant soap, and shave with chemical base shave cream. I love the smell of the exaust on my Harley and my Switchback. I drink milk from the jug, (when my wife is not looking) which I bought at a big box grocery store that has all of the above mentioned items that will kill me. This is the way I live and do not plan to change anytime soon......i guess I'm screwed....
Welcome to the club!!!
 

booondocker

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Aw nuts...I'm screwed, I eat side pork at the campground, I drink beer and sail with the Captain on a regular basis. I use under arm deodorant, take a shower with deodorant soap, and shave with chemical base shave cream. I love the smell of the exaust on my Harley and my Switchback. I drink milk from the jug, (when my wife is not looking) which I bought at a big box grocery store that has all of the above mentioned items that will kill me. This is the way I live and do not plan to change anytime soon......i guess I'm screwed....

Well since you are such a good fellow about all this, get on down and load way up on life insurance so that when you take the big sleep, your wife can grieve for a week or so, and then a whole big pile of guys on John Dee...can court her with a bank account that will choke a dinosaur....get my drift?

Clearly by the looks of things...she is going to have lots of life ahead of her...and there is no sense in the kids and her taking it on the chin cause you decide to play Russian Roulette with the chemical gang.
 

brooks

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I'll quickly add to boondockers post.

Your body is not capable of digesting milk without the enzyme provided in the milk. When milk is pasteurized that enzyme is killed. Some time ago people got sick from raw milk because of farms not being clean enough and bacteria getting into the milk. It was easier and more profitable to pasteurize the milk than to keep the farms clean. So, what you want is RAW milk that is organically processed. (lactose intolerance)

I forgot how much, but your body isn't able to digest much sugar. (diabetic)

Pig (clogged arteries, heart attack)

City water is treated with chlorine and fluorine, both cancerous.

In addition to the preservatives, inorganic food made from corn, soy beans, and a few other grains is almost guaranteed GMO (genetically modified organism). Congress has protected the interest of big business and not required them to include labeling informing the consumer that it is made from GMO's. If they were good for you you can rest assured that the labeling would be big and bold announcing that the product was made from GMO. We no longer follow the bibles prescription of letting the land rest every 7 years. But rather spend more than 1/7th and increasing on fertilizers and pesticides. Rather than organic farming, we are chemical farming, and our food is loosing the nutritional value it once had (which is the whole purpose for eating in the 1st place, to get the nutrients our bodies need out of the food). Don't quote me on all the facts and figures of this, but a test was done and the results were something like this: Wheat grown in Arkansas in 1920 had 17% protein and in 1960 had 7% protein, and with many vitamins and minerals the difference was much more drastic. (this is depriving our bodies of nutrients we need in order to have a good immune system) Common knowledge of old says that if your apples have worms in them, you should let them fall to the ground and decompose. The worms and other organisms are the system designed by the creator of the universe to fix the soil. If your soil is healthy, your apples won't get worms.
 

switch07

Member
Well since you are such a good fellow about all this, get on down and load way up on life insurance so that when you take the big sleep, your wife can grieve for a week or so, and then a whole big pile of guys on John Dee...can court her with a bank account that will choke a dinosaur....get my drift?

Clearly by the looks of things...she is going to have lots of life ahead of her...and there is no sense in the kids and her taking it on the chin cause you decide to play Russian Roulette with the chemical gang.

Naw, no John dee'rs will get the chance for that. She is cooking the side pork with me and fighting over the Captain. We are gonna go out of this world happy and together and broke. She likes the smell of her Fatboy and XC and will continue to live her life being happy. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of nasty things out there, but we choose not to be paranoid about every possible thing we eat or do. When it is our time to go, the big Guy upstairs will let us know. Until then, pass the bacon........
 

polarisrider1

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Naw, no John dee'rs will get the chance for that. She is cooking the side pork with me and fighting over the Captain. We are gonna go out of this world happy and together and broke. She likes the smell of her Fatboy and XC and will continue to live her life being happy. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of nasty things out there, but we choose not to be paranoid about every possible thing we eat or do. When it is our time to go, the big Guy upstairs will let us know. Until then, pass the bacon........

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ezra

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Looks like I am going to die. Bacon goes good with everything!

I agree with that. went out to the garden last night and picked a big bunch of green beans fried up some bacon cooked the beans in bacon grese for a min or 2 crunched up the bacon over the top and call it dinner. one of my favs
 

booondocker

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I agree with that. went out to the garden last night and picked a big bunch of green beans fried up some bacon cooked the beans in bacon grese for a min or 2 crunched up the bacon over the top and call it dinner. one of my favs

Hey, I don't advocate abstaining from everything...just moderation. But the whole point here is to NOT be surprised when you get the BIG diagnosis because if you live by the sword, you die by it too.

Bon appetit!
 

ubee

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We all are going to die of something!! most painters I know are hard core drinkers and say its from looking at blank walls all day ! maybe all the chemical fumes for 30 yrs cooks the bladder!
 

polarisrider1

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We all are going to die of something!! most painters I know are hard core drinkers and say its from looking at blank walls all day ! maybe all the chemical fumes for 30 yrs cooks the bladder!

Pretty much all the painters in my area are "Hard core" drinkers and smokers. What do they expect? I suspect this thread was to be informative and it is. Bacon and green beans slathered in bacon grease is amongst my favorites, and still legal!
 

razors_edge

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what about the radiation from your computer? and emf's and indoor and outdoor air quality and voc's? secondhand smoke anyone? don't breathe at the gas station either and don't forget other peoples farts and theres oil in the ocean. all goodpoints and probably true but i like to think are bodys can handle a little punishment and by the way i don't wash my hands
 

polarisrider1

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what about the radiation from your computer? and emf's and indoor and outdoor air quality and voc's? secondhand smoke anyone? don't breathe at the gas station either and don't forget other peoples farts and theres oil in the ocean. all goodpoints and probably true but i like to think are bodys can handle a little punishment and by the way i don't wash my hands

Really, washing hands is for sissies! We now have Oil on it's way to Lake Michigan via the Kalamazoo river. 840,000 gallons.http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/loca...creek/Oil-spill-spreading-toward-Battle-Creek
 
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booondocker

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what about the radiation from your computer? and emf's and indoor and outdoor air quality and voc's? secondhand smoke anyone? don't breathe at the gas station either and don't forget other peoples farts and theres oil in the ocean. all goodpoints and probably true but i like to think are bodys can handle a little punishment and by the way i don't wash my hands


I'd shake your hand but....ah...well, you know!!!
 
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