Well it happened again, after coughing up $1167 to repair my 600cfi at the end of last season due to what my dealer called a cold seize, my Switch took a dump again. This time the motor was warmed up and running fine. All I did was come out of a corner and start to accelerate and poof...holiday weekend is over. Less than 400 miles since the motor was rebuilt, and my dealer will be gettin a visit from me tomorow. I called him today from the trail as I looked down in disgust at my sled and he said if there was a mistake in the rebuild it would have happened within ten miles and not last a "whole" 400 miles. I asked him how could this motor run for 3200 miles with no problems and then fail twice so quickly. He said he has first class mechanics, but these things just "happen" some time. I think he repaired the motor the first time, but did not find the cause of the problem and it has come back again. My question to anyone.......any information on the 07 600 Cleanfire engines, problems, repairs, or solutions would be helpfull here as I go into battle with POO and my dealer again. Thanks guys......
Burndown AGAIN!!!!
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big_motor_guy
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um... new sled for sure, I had issues with another poo CFI motor and got screwed as well. I will not ride another poo until I'm sure they do more testing on the motors before they release them to the gunia pigs (us). good news is we saw 3 rush's (manufacturer's tags) up in twin lakes last weekend with big computers bolted to the bars so they are still working on the mapping that I'm sure will be an update in Feb or march. One had whole new design to the rear over structure so I'm sure that will be the 2011 update. One thing I've learned is only buy sleds after they've been out 3 or 4 years so someone else has had the time to work the kinks our for you. 2006 renegade for me now and I'm lovin it. da da dat da da!
skeeter2010
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I for some reason feel the need to defend Polaris on this one most likely because I am about to but a 600 Switchback. I agree that a rebuild at 3000 miles is crap a sled should run way more than 3000 miles between rebuilds if used as a trail sled. But after 3200 miles you can’t say that it is a poor design. Something has failed and the shop that rebuilt it failed to find the problem when they did the rebuild. So many things have changed in the past 5 years in regards to sleds and there fuel systems, not to mention the ethanol thing also. Good old government has required these machines to run so lean that any little hick up and you have a burn down.
I sure hope that my new one holds up the last thing I want is to have to do a $1100 dollar rebuild after 3000 miles.
And lets not forget that all the companies have had there problems
I sure hope that my new one holds up the last thing I want is to have to do a $1100 dollar rebuild after 3000 miles.
And lets not forget that all the companies have had there problems
Not being the most knowledgable on the newer sleds, is the CFI a fuel injected sled? If so, were the injectors cleaned? Is this something, like a car, that needs to be cleaned, or have injector cleaner run through the fuel from time to time?
I know adding ANYTHING to the fuel will cause it to be leaner than it should be, just asking if there are any recommendations on that......
I know adding ANYTHING to the fuel will cause it to be leaner than it should be, just asking if there are any recommendations on that......
I dont know the history with your sled. But did you ever get the oil consumption corrected? Polaris did send out a lot of 07s with very lean oil usage.
Switch07: Not to sound insensitive to your burndown problems but injected 2s just either lock crank bearings or burndown & I got sick of it & went to 4s. Fighting with dealers & Oems over 2s engine repairs plain SUCKS. I feel for ya but I just do not believe injected 2s is the answer. Poo is having all kinds of problems with their injected 2s & a Poo engines used to be something you could depend on. Since CFI & the Fusion engines Poo 2s are a gamble. Tough stuff for ya & I don't know how you can trust that sled? I know I couldn't.
skeeter2010
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Are you saying the the 2 injector motors are not as reliable as the 4 injector motors???
I love when mechanics cant find the cause to a burndown and just chalk it up to bad gas or a cold seize. (sometimes it is but sometimes not) The smart money is there is a air leak in the motor somewhere. I.E crankseals, injector boots. Id hold the shop responsible 100 % They fixed the end result of the problem NOT the actual problem. Its a bad sign when you dont find exactly WHY an engine went down and just rebuild it.
(and yes it could last 400 miles with an air leak) Heck thats less than 2 days riding.
(and yes it could last 400 miles with an air leak) Heck thats less than 2 days riding.
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bouncer
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Stay on that dealer hard! They absolutely did not diagnose the cause in the first place. Ask for anything in writing that pertains to a warranty for the work they do. Take them to court if need be. I am sick and tired of hearing about these GOD shops that do no wrong. If you paid by check, stop payment. If you paid by credit card dispute the charge. Good luck
I think he was sayin 2 stroke vs 4 stroke
If you don't have any luck with the dealer that did the work I would call Poo directly and get the territory managers name and email address (they won't usally give out their phone numbers). Then send the territory manager a nice calm email letting him know what the problem is and let him know you would like to take your sled to any other dealer because you don't trust that dealer any more with your sled. And Poo should work out the bills between dealers.
I had to do this with my wifes sled (a cat) the territory manager for cat was real nice and help full. We finally got the problem solved and I have not been back to that original dealer since. Some dealers (does not matter what brand) are just not worth a #!!%*
Keep all your paper work, keep a "log" with what day you called who about what.
Good luck!
I had to do this with my wifes sled (a cat) the territory manager for cat was real nice and help full. We finally got the problem solved and I have not been back to that original dealer since. Some dealers (does not matter what brand) are just not worth a #!!%*
Keep all your paper work, keep a "log" with what day you called who about what.
Good luck!
OK guys, this is the first good news I've had for a while. The sled is being repaired as I write this note. My dealer is taking full resposibility and repairing no charge. It was another cold sieze as he states and showed me the torn down engine and parts. You can see the damage to the piston and how it lines up with the coolant ports in the jug. This time it was on the recoil side of the engine, last time it was the PTO. We also saw it was the rechromed jug that failed, not the good one from last time. I asked him if he had replaced the thermostat last time and he said no. I told him I that I was sure the sled was warmed up completely and how could this happen again unless the thermo was maybe sticking and he agreed to change it out for a new one. The fuel filter was changed last year when he rebuilt it the first time. Both piston domes were perfect color so there was no lean burning or ethanol contamination causing problems. Plenty of oil in the crank, no problems with the lubrication. When he rebuilt it last year he updated the CFI to take care of the so called midrange lean spot. Everything points to this cold sieze phenomenom he talks about. My thinking is if the thermo was sticking it would open too fast and bring a huge brain freeze of coolant to the cylinders and bang down you go again. That is why I requested a new thermo. He told me he stands behind his work and if it happens again a new motor is in order. I can't ask for a much better response than this. The sled will be ready this afternoon, after he takes it out and test rides it he will call for me to pick it up. By the way, when it siezed up last year the season was over and this was the first chance I had to ride so his warranty carried over to this year. Heading back up to the UP Friday........all is good...wife said I get a new sled next year.....all is better.
KENS in Little Chute WI...........Where my 2011 will be purchased!