Carbides on Tuner Skis

[dfattack]

Is there a specific post you are referring to or is this a general statement?

It's a general statement, however I can read both here and on TY's site how people can ride the same sleds I ride and don't experience darting or push in the corners with certain setups that I have personally tried myself...and have experienced the darting and push. I now exclusively use snow trackers and read about people having all these problems with them...which I have not had. I've Been using them for about 10 years now which translates into approx. 15,000 miles and haven't experienced any of the issues that scare people away from them.

To be clear, I am not saying "they" are wrong and I'm right. My point is how interesting it is to have the same sled, setup and equipment and two people can interpret the results differently. An example is me and my son. We can ride the same sled and have totally different opinions about what we just experienced. The point is EVERYONE will interpret things their own way and everyone needs to setup their sled how they prefer. All we can do is read pro's and con's and try things out and see what works best for them...and yes it sometimes requires a little money to spend to try things out.

 

[whitedust]

It's a general statement, however I can read both here and on TY's site how people can ride the same sleds I ride and don't experience darting or push in the corners with certain setups that I have personally tried myself...and have experienced the darting and push. I now exclusively use snow trackers and read about people having all these problems with them...which I have not had. I've Been using them for about 10 years now which translates into approx. 15,000 miles and haven't experienced any of the issues that scare people away from them.

To be clear, I am not saying "they" are wrong and I'm right. My point is how interesting it is to have the same sled, setup and equipment and two people can interpret the results differently. An example is me and my son. We can ride the same sled and have totally different opinions about what we just experienced. The point is EVERYONE will interpret things their own way and everyone needs to setup their sled how they prefer. All we can do is read pro's and con's and try things out and see what works best for them...and yes it sometimes requires a little money to spend to try things out.

Yep we have tried so many carbide combos between us we know what makes these eps sleds dance with stock single keelers & tuners. We share that info & move on. I'm so glad I didn't get sucked into all the interweb negative TY postings about STs. Those postings delayed my application of STs but watching you carve while triple points pushed & darted on the exact same sleds convinced me to take the plunge. Soooooo glad I did less steering effort, pinpoint turning, no darting then fine tuned to where a little more settled than your xtx. I still think you need to back off track transfer just a hair for more carving but hey ok with me many years between us & I need all the advanatge I can get over you young ones. lol

 

[timo]

this statement right here by dfattact is about the most sensical logical statement I've read on the site in quite some time.

It's a general statement, however I can read both here and on TY's site how people can ride the same sleds I ride and don't experience darting or push in the corners with certain setups that I have personally tried myself...and have experienced the darting and push. I now exclusively use snow trackers and read about people having all these problems with them...which I have not had. I've Been using them for about 10 years now which translates into approx. 15,000 miles and haven't experienced any of the issues that scare people away from them.

To be clear, I am not saying "they" are wrong and I'm right. My point is how interesting it is to have the same sled, setup and equipment and two people can interpret the results differently. An example is me and my son. We can ride the same sled and have totally different opinions about what we just experienced. The point is EVERYONE will interpret things their own way and everyone needs to setup their sled how they prefer. All we can do is read pro's and con's and try things out and see what works best for them...and yes it sometimes requires a little money to spend to try things out.

 

[Tracker]

following your logic that shorter carbide turn better then I guess the ice racers are using the shortest carbide runners available?

this works in snow/sand/mud....soft materials....and an unstudded track...ice is a different realm....try to follow along

 

[Tracker]

I still need to dial in more front end downforce on my 14 Vec LTX. Have gone 1 tighter on the strap.....going 1 more and hope to get one more ride it. It just doesn't steer as well as my 05 Vector 121".......yet.

well there are 2 ways to increase front pressure...one is the way you just said....the other and it does the same thing is to run the spring tight up so that there is only about 3/4 thread adjustment left...and lowering the limiter...I bet your front shocks have about 3 inches more of room to tighten on the threads....with that amount you could raise the limiter all you want and it wont get any better...to find out if im right just leave the limiter up and tighten the shocks up front...bet shes turns better...then for even more bite...lower the limiter instead of going up....bites real hard...now raise the limiter 2 spots like you originally was going to....you'll find your push is back again...this will show you that the track laying flat does steer the machine....I used to b a VMAX man so I know a little about tanks

 

[groomerdriver]

well there are 2 ways to increase front pressure...one is the way you just said....the other and it does the same thing is to run the spring tight up so that there is only about 3/4 thread adjustment left...and lowering the limiter...I bet your front shocks have about 3 inches more of room to tighten on the threads....with that amount you could raise the limiter all you want and it wont get any better...to find out if im right just leave the limiter up and tighten the shocks up front...bet shes turns better...then for even more bite...lower the limiter instead of going up....bites real hard...now raise the limiter 2 spots like you originally was going to....you'll find your push is back again...this will show you that the track laying flat does steer the machine....I used to b a VMAX man so I know a little about tanks

You are saying to crank up the front shock spring pressure? If so, I know about that option and was going to do it but the starter puked in my 14 Vec and I had to cut the trip short.