Covid Relief Package

acase27

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That's a deep rabbit hole to go down but I never understood... We don't like their way of life, their governing body and way about it, don't like their products and unfair trade practices, don't like their labor practices but..... Their money is just fine. I just don't get it and honestly, fiscally I think they already do own us. Some day we will regret it.

The "China owns all our debt" line is an often repeated phrase but it is not correct. About 1/4 of the US Treasuries issued to buyers are owned by foreign governments. Of those foreign governments, China is not the biggest holder, Japan is. China owns less than 20% of the foreign owned treasuries, so they own ~5% of the issued Treasuries.

The biggest single holder of Treasuries by far, is our own Fed. They own almost 40% of the issued Treasuries. We have literally "printed" money to buy our own debt. This fact deserves its own discussion.
 
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Deleted member 10829

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They have all year to get the spending bill done and every year they wait until the very end and ram it down everyone's throat. This year they could combine it with Covid relief and anyone that voted against it was hurting those in need. The real hurt was waiting to pass this until there was a new president elected, Pelosi admitted it herself. Covid relief should have been done months ago. As they say, "don't ever let a crisis go to waste." It is sickening!!
 

Skylar

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Staff member
My wife had the local propaganda station on when I got home tonight, I walked in on the start of the NBC nightly news with Lester Holt. OMFG, apparently Trump has thrown in a monkey wrench on this much needed covid relief bill! Then they interview some tool who has "exhausted" all his savings, and really needs this 600 bucks, he was counting on it! Lmao. NOTHING was said about Trump wanting congress to eliminate the pork spending for foreign countries! Still trying to make Trump out as the bad man! Lololololol m!
 

Lost Sheep

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My wife had the local propaganda station on when I got home tonight, I walked in on the start of the NBC nightly news with Lester Holt. OMFG, apparently Trump has thrown in a monkey wrench on this much needed covid relief bill! Then they interview some tool who has "exhausted" all his savings, and really needs this 600 bucks, he was counting on it! Lmao. NOTHING was said about Trump wanting congress to eliminate the pork spending for foreign countries! Still trying to make Trump out as the bad man! Lololololol m!

Thought you didn't watch the news??
 

xcr440

Well-known member

I saw the CBS evening news tonight (It was on inside a bar/restaurant I was drinking and eating at in Sconnie) and the negative still out to get Trump headlines are sickening. They can’t even let the guy be taken out of office graciously. Such a joke the media is. Notice how I didn’t say “news”.
 
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Deleted member 10829

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I saw the CBS evening news tonight (It was on inside a bar/restaurant I was drinking and eating at in Sconnie) and the negative still out to get Trump headlines are sickening. They can’t even let the guy be taken out of office graciously. Such a joke the media is. Notice how I didn’t say “news”.

It really is amazing how bad the media has become. They have a lower rating than congress, and that's bad! It's amazing how aggressively they go after conservatives and completely ignore the other side doing the exact same thing. Good thing is most people can see right through it.
 
It really is amazing how bad the media has become. They have a lower rating than congress, and that's bad! It's amazing how aggressively they go after conservatives and completely ignore the other side doing the exact same thing. Good thing is most people can see right through it.

You do know that critical data related to our power grid and nuclear arsenal has
Been exposed, probably to the Ruskies. Your fine with T allowing this to
Happen? Like I said before, you will not recognize US in a few months.
Start learning a foreign language, you’ll need it.
 

slimcake

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That's almost a month old. What did you expect from Nazi pelosi....

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You do know that critical data related to our power grid and nuclear arsenal has
Been exposed, probably to the Ruskies. Your fine with T allowing this to
Happen? Like I said before, you will not recognize US in a few months.
Start learning a foreign language, you’ll need it.
Aren't the national intelligence agency's apolitical?? That's what they claim. How can you blame this T ?? I'm sure it has nothing to do with China or the wide open display of cooperation with the so called pres elect and family.... But blame this T guy.... Coward...
 
That's almost a month old. What did you expect from Nazi pelosi....

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Aren't the national intelligence agency's apolitical?? That's what they claim. How can you blame this T ?? I'm sure it has nothing to do with China or the wide open display of cooperation with the so called pres elect and family.... But blame this T guy.... Coward...

Trump has fired top brass in Pentagon, CIA and FBI. Replaced
With his golden chin chain monkeys. This is what you get. Are you following
The huge US military buildup in Syria just to protect Israel? War starts in 3 weeks or less.
 

slimcake

Well-known member
It coming folks, wake up! China and Russia are supporting
Iran. Been doing joint military drills together since 11/2019.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/10/us-military-potential-iranian-attack-444313

Dude get a grip. Can we have coffee sometime? If Biden does get in of course the wars will start. Idk how you can twist that into Trump who has four Islam countries sign on to peace deals. Of course that's highly covered by the media/politico that you love to site.... Come on man...

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Ffs Canada has been doing drills with China. Should we bomb them as well??https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.hind...reports/story-Ls6WZNOE7q2bp9yqtjbB9L_amp.html
 

Skylar

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Staff member
The covid relief bill was combined w/ 2021 omnibus spending bill.

That's why it contains spending on so many unrelated things.

Because they are, in fact, unrelated.

Oh I see, well, then it's perfectly fine then! Thanks for making me not be pissed anymore for sending huge amounts of money to foreign countries! I feel so much better now! Wow, shame on me for getting so upset.
 
Oh I see, well, then it's perfectly fine then! Thanks for making me not be pissed anymore for sending huge amounts of money to foreign countries! I feel so much better now! Wow, shame on me for getting so upset.

Just explaining how the pork got inside the COVID bill.
Yes, fat and ugly. Looked at my last paystub of the year and
The exorbitant amount of tax paid. Can I keep it for my family instead?
 

Gordo

New member
Best way to send a message to Washington is to never vote for an incumbent again until they get the message that we won’t stand for all this waste and corruption.
 

Skylar

Super Moderator
Staff member
Just explaining how the pork got inside the COVID bill.
Yes, fat and ugly. Looked at my last paystub of the year and
The exorbitant amount of tax paid. Can I keep it for my family instead?

I am down over 10k wages earned this year compared to last, because of covid, and how it effected the industry I work in. I was hoping the covid relief bill was going to get me back that 10k! (Sarcasm)
 
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