skidoocadets8
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Anyone out there who owns a crossover i would like to know how they ride on the trail... i have never owned one so any input is appreciated!
Crossover vs Trail
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maximumpsi
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Crossovers are supposed to bridge the bumps better, but riders are concerned about ease of handling and cornering on the trail. Here's one way to evaluate the difference between sleds: Measure the difference in how much track is actually on the ground on a short-tracked sled vs. a 136" crossover. You might be surprised at how little difference there is. Some crossover skids have the rear of the rails tipped up, so you have less track on the ground when on a hard-packed trail, but more flotation in deep snow when the tipped rails are in contact with the snow off-trail. Also look at weight difference between the 121 and 136, 141, etc. Some of the crossovers come with a 1.25" lugs standard, which is nice.
skidoocadets8
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Thanks
The only off trail riding i ever do is in the field in my back yard lol
Are they harder to turn in the corners (im looking for results for sleds with 136's and thats it, not a 144 or anything like a summit or one of the m series sleds)
there just seems to be so many more renegades than mxzs on the market to buy!
The only off trail riding i ever do is in the field in my back yard lol
Are they harder to turn in the corners (im looking for results for sleds with 136's and thats it, not a 144 or anything like a summit or one of the m series sleds)
there just seems to be so many more renegades than mxzs on the market to buy!
my wife never goes off trail and always wants to drive my xfire .I have converted all the guys I know to 136 or more when they go buy.the last was a 76yr old guy who never goes off trail and he loves his xfire.they track straighter with out the fish tail as far as corner push you wont be able to tell the diff.I ride with some guys who bring there kids who race snow x less than 1/2 my age ridding 121 Snow x sleds and they cant lose me in the tight twisty trails.come on what track has been under the 2up touring cadillacs for decades
skidoocadets8
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anyone else? i need lots of opinions!
showboater
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I have a Dragon Switchback. Love it! No problems in cornering. Spend 50% offtrail so the extra track comes in handy. Hooks up better and defintely helps on the bumps. My humble opinion.
136 is best way to get advantage of 4s power band hook up & weight distribution. Very pleased with my Attack & always rode 121s before. I will never go back to 121 2s or 4s unless something new comes along in suspensions to reconsider 121 again. 136 bridges bumps & stutters so much better than short tracks & still very nimble & better in the powder. Gade 4tek looks like a good machine....never rode one but worth consideration.
well we are all talking about bridging bumps sounds like may be time 4 a 144 because all the 136 will be making the new bumps that the 121's were making ok maby 153 that will span all the 136 moguls.the cheaper alt go with track usa rail ext and a track if sled still running well.the 7.5 on the snow will make your old sled ride 40%better.my old zl600 rode like a whole new sled after 136 kit kept it 2 more yrs than planed because of 136 kit and the 1m bars
well we are all talking about bridging bumps sounds like may be time 4 a 144 because all the 136 will be making the new bumps that the 121's were making ok maby 153 that will span all the 136 moguls.the cheaper alt go with track usa rail ext and a track if sled still running well.the 7.5 on the snow will make your old sled ride 40%better.my old zl600 rode like a whole new sled after 136 kit kept it 2 more yrs than planed because of 136 kit and the 1m bars
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WOW!
With all the responses like above it is amazing there is still a market for a standard track sled.
2 years ago the wife had a ZL600 and I had(still have) a Renegade 600.
The ZL was giving her fits on the trail, riding squirrley and fishtailing like crazy. We switched for a while to give her a break.
I never got my sled back!
Sold that ZL and bought here a 2 Up with the 136" track.
We now have 4 of the 5 sleds in our group that are 136" tracks. None of us will go back, the last holdout will upgrade probably at the end of the year.
There is a a slight trade off, they do not break loose and slide out of corners as easy, esp when studded and there is a slight amount of trade off in cornering ability. But if not ridden at race speeds thru the trails you will never know.
One thing also to remember, this is speaking from experience, a 136" will fit into a standard 10' trailer but the skiis are soo far up into the nose portion that if the lid is a drive on/drive off type you will not be able to flip the lid up in the front so make sure you get one with reverse.
I will never go less than 136" on a sled again.
With all the responses like above it is amazing there is still a market for a standard track sled.
2 years ago the wife had a ZL600 and I had(still have) a Renegade 600.
The ZL was giving her fits on the trail, riding squirrley and fishtailing like crazy. We switched for a while to give her a break.
I never got my sled back!
Sold that ZL and bought here a 2 Up with the 136" track.
We now have 4 of the 5 sleds in our group that are 136" tracks. None of us will go back, the last holdout will upgrade probably at the end of the year.
There is a a slight trade off, they do not break loose and slide out of corners as easy, esp when studded and there is a slight amount of trade off in cornering ability. But if not ridden at race speeds thru the trails you will never know.
One thing also to remember, this is speaking from experience, a 136" will fit into a standard 10' trailer but the skiis are soo far up into the nose portion that if the lid is a drive on/drive off type you will not be able to flip the lid up in the front so make sure you get one with reverse.
I will never go less than 136" on a sled again.
One thing to consider is if you are a lake racer. My renegade is geared lower than a regular mxz and it will blow belts if held to long at WOT which is about 90-95 mph. If you want more speed you might have to change the gears but the 136" is the way to go. If you don't change gears and never hold your speed above 80 to long the belts will last just as long as a short track. I personally have never notice the differance in cornering, so I wouldn't worry about it.
skidoocadets8
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wow thanks guys
i am a pretty agressive trail rider, so i guess that this may be affected
i do ride with my dad, he has 98 mach z 800 triplr, and it absolutely flies on the lakes and handles fairly well on the trails. anyone know what the fastest but safest speed is to run these on lakes?
i am a pretty agressive trail rider, so i guess that this may be affected
i do ride with my dad, he has 98 mach z 800 triplr, and it absolutely flies on the lakes and handles fairly well on the trails. anyone know what the fastest but safest speed is to run these on lakes?
