doo and yammy no start...

dab102999

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I havent really had a chance to dig into it yet but i have an 07 blizzard and an 06 attak and neither one will spin over with the electric start...I have off and on had chargers on them over the summer and in fact had one on them last day or so...both sleds instantly said fully charged when plugged in but left trickle on for the night anyways...went to try and start and both just sit there and click...(selinoid click) but no starter....what u guys think...sort of looked.over fuses and all look good...also yammys fuel pump kicks right on....dont have a problem buyin bats but dont want to drop a couple hundred if that aint it.....
 

russholio

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It may show full voltage, but not have enough amps behind it. Put your meter on it when cranking it over and see what the voltage reads.
 

dab102999

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Wont crank at all...will this still apply?????...and what about using another battery to try and jump it????
 

fredster

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I would tie in an automotive battery and try it. 99% sure you have weak batteries....I have had car batteries show 13V and drop to almost zero when you turn the key....they show full but have no capacity.
 
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Deleted member 10829

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If those are original batteries, you have done well and it's time to replace. I got 5 years out of mine on my FST. You may have a problem with the charger and I would test the batteries.
 

dab102999

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I will try jumping with an outsource bat. first tonight...don't mind buyin new bat's but want to eliminate problems before dumping money...as far as chargers I used two different ones so I don't think that is the problem...plus I had just used then a few days before to top off my lawn mower bat's for winter storage...Thanks for all the help and will let ya know if that works...


as far as bat's go what do ya think is the best replacement to go with...been thinkin jel but is it really worth the $$$$....on the doo I got the back up of pull start but not on the Yammy and that is the one I am more concerened about of the two....
 

russholio

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What engine do you have in the Doo? If it's SDI, it will not run properly, if at all, if the battery is shot. Pull start on an SDI is useless if the problem lies with the battery.
 

saber1

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hopefully you did not use a cheap trickle charger for too long i left one on a sled once for a week and the battery got overcharged and fried.Best to use a battery tender that comes on when battery is low and shuts off when charged.The problem you have sounds identical to what i had battery showed 13.5 volts but did not have the Amps to crank it over.Battery for sure.
 

blutooth

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Not an SDI....800 P Tek....

800 Ptek is the same as the SDI. We rode with an 08 800last year with a dead battery. He couldnt even pull stat it with the battery dead - we had to pull a relay off a sled without electric start to get the sled to fire up. I also think it sounds like the batteries. Good luck!
 

muss

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I had a 2007 renegade that I thought was a dead battery so I bought a new battery and when replaced still was dead, so I
So I bought a new relay at Napa for $12.00 and after replaced it started right up. Moral of the story... I wish I would have
Tried that first before building and replacing and charging a new battery.
 

russholio

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I had a 2007 renegade that I thought was a dead battery so I bought a new battery and when replaced still was dead, so I
So I bought a new relay at Napa for $12.00 and after replaced it started right up. Moral of the story... I wish I would have
Tried that first before building and replacing and charging a new battery.

Possibly....but if the starter is clicking, it sounds as if juice is getting to it -- just not enough juice. I would think, though don't know for certain, that if the relay were bad no juice would get to the starter.
 

dab102999

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Probably wont get a chance to dig into it more till the weekend....but as far as the doo goes it is definatly the selinoid that is clicking and not the starter...I have side panal open and can feel it clicking.
 

mjkaliszak

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I would jump it to verify battery issue or take them to an advance auto or autozone for load test. I also now run the agm batteries in all my stuff, not the true gel ! Last time I looked the true gel were like 300 ??? The agm ( absorbed glass mat ) are about 95, the cheapest place is " the battery store " or aka Batteries Plus they had some for about 85-87 at one time. A few years back I was beating my head with battery problems, even bought a brand new battery and it still wouldn't start my ski. It ended up being defective ( a new one ? ). Never the less one of the biggest killers of battery life is the extreme enviroment we use them in ( sleds / jet ski's ) battery's don't like the constant pounding & vibration. That's why our cheap o lead core/ acid filled battery's last for 5 years in the lawnmower but only a season or 1.5 seasons in the powersport vehicles. Thus the advantage of the agm. I have had 3 or 4 for 3 + years, I even swap them out to other vehicles. I even put one in my lawn mower so thgat one agm battery has been in 2 jetski's and now a lawn mower ( not bad ) LOL....
 
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russholio

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The OEM battery in the Doo is probably a Yuasa YTX20 (at least, it is in mine). They are AGM. If you end up having to replace it, I would recommend sticking with OEM or a reputable equivalent. Battery is one place you don't want to cheap out with some Chinese knock-off.
 

dab102999

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Jumped the yammy and it spun over so is a battery for sure in that one...tried jumpin the doo with nothin but clicken...didn't have my amp meter handy and was getting dark but my boy for the heck of it pulled it over and it fired right up....let it run for a bit...shut it down and tried jumping it again and still nothing...so will find my amp meter or just go get a new bat for the yammy and try that on the doo first...my last question is if selinoid is clicking then it must be good correct???..if that is the case and a new bat don't spin it then it must be the starter correct???...I did pull the couple fuses that I found and when I did the clicken stopped and then when I put them back in power was back to the selinoid....also would a good "rap" on the starter be of any use here or is that not the case with sled starters???...thanks again all.
 

whitedust

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Well could be short in old battery is preventing jump. Can you jump directly to the starter? A good rap on the starter might break it loose but will be problematic down the line if short in starter. New battery for Yam try 1st in doo sounds like a plan. Not sure same configuration battery could be different.......don't know?
 
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