earth out of sync by 2 months

[Tracker]

any of youse guys see now that the earth is out by 2 months....I said that way back in fall...to be ready for winter until may....guess what....its here....the wobble is clearly visible now.....keep the sleds ready would be my advice cuase it aint over yet at all...I posted a vid in the rambling section aboot this....watch it if you can for some insight for years to come....but mother nature is trying to wright itself back to normal...so it will be back and forth....warming and no warming....hotter in winter and colder in summer....winter coming later and spring lasting longer.....fall like summer should be and so on.....snow is deep still and you can still ride legally all over beat he!!.....get out and have fun.

 

[G]

Actually he did say this last fall......

 

[DamageInc]

Actually he did say this last fall......

Even a broken clock is correct twice per day.

This Cold Spring is caused by Arctic oscillation, not by the planet wobbling. https://climate.ncsu.edu/climate/patterns/nao

 

[Tracker]

Even a broken clock is correct twice per day.

This Cold Spring is caused by Arctic oscillation, not by the planet wobbling. https://climate.ncsu.edu/climate/patterns/nao

so a scientist just said....arctic oscillation....but not by planet wobble.....wowsers...what is oscillation? would that be called wobble...do the red stripes on the top you spun as a kid...do they wobble or did the top itself wobble...you just confirmed that you should stick to English since those patterns are caused by the earths wobble as whole

 

[DamageInc]

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so a scientist just said....arctic oscillation....but not by planet wobble.....wowsers...what is oscillation? would that be called wobble...do the red stripes on the top you spun as a kid...do they wobble or did the top itself wobble...you just confirmed that you should stick to English since those patterns are caused by the earths wobble as whole

Arctic Oscillation is a shift in the polar air mass, not the planet. If the planet was wobbling enough to delay winter by two months, the time of sunset and sunrise would be changing, but it's not. Your posts on this are not only laughable and unscientific, but show an extraordinary lack of common sense.

 

[Tracker]

Arctic Oscillation is a shift in the polar air mass


see this ^^^^^^


what do you think causes those air currents to shift around? your getting warmer waldo

 

[DamageInc]

Arctic Oscillation is a shift in the polar air mass


see this ^^^^^^


what do you think causes those air currents to shift around? your getting warmer waldo

LMAO, you should apply to work for NASA or NOAA, so you can explain to them how Arctic Oscillation is caused by the planet wobbling. When they finish laughing at you, their first question will be "why isn't the time of sunrise and sunset shifting then?" Sill waiting for your answer...

I don't think I've ever met someone so willfully ignorant as you. Even when presented with evidence that your assertion is false (like the location of the Bill Nichols trail), you refuse to consider the possibility that you are wrong.

Try reading the link that I posted about Arctic Oscillation. It contains real scientific explanations, not goofball conspiracy theory. Next you will probably tell us that the earth is flat.

 

[POLARISDAN]

u 2 crack me UP...hahahahahahahahahahhaha

 

[snobuilder]

32 high today and 18 tonight. April is coming in on par with Feb.
Today is January 97, 2018 in wobbly oscillating SE WISCO.

 

[old abe]

And I say so what!!!

 

[snobuilder]

And I say so what!!!

yes, I agree!

 

[DamageInc]

The Arctic Oscillation (AO) is a large scale mode of climate variability, also referred to as the Northern Hemisphere annular mode. The AO is a climate pattern characterized by winds circulating counterclockwise around the Arctic at around 55°N latitude. When the AO is in its positive phase, a ring of strong winds circulating around the North Pole acts to confine colder air across polar regions. This belt of winds becomes weaker and more distorted in the negative phase of the AO, which allows an easier southward penetration of colder, arctic airmasses and increased storminess into the mid-latitudes.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/teleconnections/ao/

 

[Tracker]

dude...please....the wobble is the greatest effect...hands down...and it causes the other stuff....yes there are other effects...but your AO is way way way down on it....its a cause from the effect...dust is number 5...AO number 30


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_effects_on_climate


Earth's axial tilt

Perhaps one of the most apparent factors contributing to Earth climate change is the angle at which the earth is tilted. This is the angle at which Earth’s axis of rotation is from the vertical, also known as Earth’s obliquity.


while your reading that link listen to this....it has a calming effect....since the wobble causes you to hype out and spew

 

[DamageInc]

dude...please....the wobble is the greatest effect...hands down...and it causes the other stuff....yes there are other effects...but your AO is way way way down on it....its a cause from the effect...dust is number 5...AO number 30


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_effects_on_climate




Earth's axial tilt

Perhaps one of the most apparent factors contributing to Earth climate change is the angle at which the earth is tilted. This is the angle at which Earth’s axis of rotation is from the vertical, also known as Earth’s obliquity.


while your reading that link listen to this....it has a calming effect....since the wobble causes you to hype out and spew

Answer the questions: If the earth tilted on it's axis enough to delay winter by two months, why didn't the time of sunrise and sunset change?

Question two: if winter was delayed (not prolonged) by two months, how were we snowmobiling in sub-zero temps in December?

Question three: Why would NASA/NOAA be trying to cover this up, if it were true?

I'm starting to doubt that you actually believe any of this, and are just trolling.

 

[Tracker]

Answer the questions: If the earth tilted on it's axis enough to delay winter by two months, why didn't the time of sunrise and sunset change?

because a slight angle variance as is now...say maybe 1/2 a degree...causes weather extremes due to wind current alterations from the norm....I think you expect me to say it is a major change in degrees....its not....its ever so slightly to effect seasons a tad....for what you want it to change like the sun and moon positions....it would have to be a pole shift or over 20 degrees...and then you could forget aboot the whole conversation as it would be way more than 2 months off....and FYI...its ROUGHLY 2 months off...again...I have always stated that it is slightly off so that we sledders will be able to extend our riding season...you do know that's why I post this info at this time so readers can keep the sleds at the ready for these storms now coming that are many threads on here aboot this very event...only most are like....will it happen john....is it possible john.....whats the forecast like next week john....save your self some agony and john having to post the same info 100 times....what part of a bonus on sledding don't you understand....and you can see and feel it happening.....or maybe you cant but the rest of us can...I dunno....your definitely taking all this to the extremes and I am suggesting minor fluctuations in our seasons....until the pole shift happens.....does that help on number 1?

 

[sweeperguy]

because a slight angle variance as is now...say maybe 1/2 a degree...causes weather extremes due to wind current alterations from the norm....I think you expect me to say it is a major change in degrees....its not....its ever so slightly to effect seasons a tad....for what you want it to change like the sun and moon positions....it would have to be a pole shift or over 20 degrees...and then you could forget aboot the whole conversation as it would be way more than 2 months off....and FYI...its ROUGHLY 2 months off...again...I have always stated that it is slightly off so that we sledders will be able to extend our riding season...you do know that's why I post this info at this time so readers can keep the sleds at the ready for these storms now coming that are many threads on here aboot this very event...only most are like....will it happen john....is it possible john.....whats the forecast like next week john....save your self some agony and john having to post the same info 100 times....what part of a bonus on sledding don't you understand....and you can see and feel it happening.....or maybe you cant but the rest of us can...I dunno....your definitely taking all this to the extremes and I am suggesting minor fluctuations in our seasons....until the pole shift happens.....does that help on number 1?

So if all this is true why are you posting it and not John. Since he is a meterologist and you are not. Also, why would John stop his weather updates on the same dates as always. Having a dedicated thread post to update upcoming events

 

[Dirty70Firebird]

I think what Tracker is attempting to say is the earth has some variation in the amount of tilt angle or obliquity. In my college physics classes, they spoke of this phenomenon. In the wiki link posted above, refers to a bit of this variation of the 23.5 degree tilt angle, and that it varies over a 41,000 year cycle from 22.2 to 24.5 degrees. Thanks for bringing me back to college physics!!

 

[Tracker]

I think what Tracker is attempting to say is the earth has some variation in the amount of tilt angle or obliquity. In my college physics classes, they spoke of this phenomenon. In the wiki link posted above, refers to a bit of this variation of the 23.5 degree tilt angle, and that it varies over a 41,000 year cycle from 22.2 to 24.5 degrees. Thanks for bringing me back to college physics!!

yes that's it...was hoping damage would of read the links I provided but I guess not....that tilting regulates the seasons on a smaller scale....and anything can knock it out of whack...yes this is from that link and it provides most of the answers he seeks....but this one is the factor that most effects this phenom...damageinc of course there is more to this but each factor you add in adds less and less to the season progression....along with CME's and other factors which include volcanoes and tsunamis and earthquakes, these all effect the seasons progressions....and those 3 latter ones are what caused it to tilt another tad of a degree in these last 7 years when this all started....about then damage...not exactly...nature is never exact...ever...if you want to see the sun and the CME's coming at the earth in real time and hitting the magnetosphere and the tilt and effect that all has you go to SOHO....also SOHO YOUTUBE to see some films of all this....this all pertains to the aurora borealis and the winds whipping around earth while its tilted.....the winds just like the aurora will be at different places and never the same....this all controls the seasons....along with other smaller factors...its very complicated....bottom line is...the earth is out by ABOUT 2 seasons...so with that in mind....get set to explore the yellow legal areas of sledding until june...simple really...on the SOHO home page link there is a speedometer that shows the wind in real time....today its 499 kilometers per second...wowsers...which...gives us all LES...woohooo


from wiki link above:
Earth’s current tilt angle is approximately 23.5 degrees. The axial tilt angle affects climate largely by determining which parts of the earth get more sunlight during different stages of the year. This is the primary cause for the different seasons Earth experiences throughout the year, as well as the intensity of the seasons for higher latitudes


https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/soho/index.html

SOHO HOME PAGE
https://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/

 

[sweeperguy]

W/O the long winded quotes [sure would be nice if they collapsed down]-- :...............

I think what Tracker is attempting to say is the earth has some variation in the amount of tilt angle or obliquity....................................................and that it varies over a 41,000 year cycle from 22.2 to 24.5 degrees. Thanks for bringing me back to college physics!!

yes that's it...was hoping damage would of read the links I provided but I guess not....that tilting regulates the seasons on a smaller scale....and anything can knock it out of whack................................................................bottom line is...the earth is out by ABOUT 2 seasons...so with that in mind....get set to explore the yellow legal areas of sledding until june...simple really...on the SOHO home page link there is a speedometer that shows the wind in real time....today its 499 kilometers per second...wowsers...which...gives us all LES...woohooo


from wiki link above:
Earth’s current tilt angle is approximately 23.5 degrees. The axial tilt angle affects climate largely by determining which parts of the earth get more sunlight during different stages of the year. This is the primary cause for the different seasons Earth experiences throughout the year, as well as the intensity of the seasons for higher latitudes


https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/soho/index.html

This is all well and good. HOWEVER if this is the cause (tilt of Earth on its axis) it would shift SO SLOWLY that there would be no way any living person would notice it.
I would have to guess for the earth to be out of sync by 2 months would have to take thousands of years. Based on a 41,000 year cycle of obliquity changes.
Just because spring is a late comer this year, by no means indicates a swing in seasons. Seems to me this time last year temps were in the 70's. If seasons were shifting, average temps for the 2nd week of April would be 30ish, but they are high 50's near 60.
2016 had record setting early ice out for the state of Minnesota. '15, '17 , '12 , '10 , '07 were all early ice out on Lake Minnetonka, all before April 5th. '04, '05, & '06 were all out by the 9th.
So how does this fit into seasons being out (late) by 2 months?

 

[chords]

W/O the long winded quotes [sure would be nice if they collapsed down]-- : Hence the sunset/sunrise change being questioned for an earth tilt would not be a notable event. 8:29 or 8:31 who would really notice.