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Lenny,

Who is this guy I've been reading about that Lidell took under his wing? I think his last name is like Texeira or something close. He's supposed to be the next big thing. What have you heard?
 
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yup, he beat Fabio Maldonado last night in UFC 153. I have herd the buzz about this guy and he is impressive. He seems to be a well rounded 205 fighter with an impressive record of 19-2-0. I did see some highlights late last night and he is impressive. He is already 33 years old. I do not think he will take the belt from Jones,,,ever,,,but no doubt he is a bad dude
 
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oh yea,,,silva beats Bonnar at the end of the first round,,,surprise,,,lol
 
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I didn't see it, but it sounds like when Silva decided to "flip the switch" and take it to him, it was over in no time. I'd like to see someone come along that can take him as I never like to see one team or person dominate, it's not as exciting IMO.
 
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I agree but there is no one in the middle weight to do it. Chael Sonnen can hang with him because he is probably THE best wrestler out there but he cannot finish people. Sonnen is a bad dude but he needs more power. I think Sonnen will get another chance in a year or so if Silva stays in, which I believe he will hang around for some time still.
 
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whitedust

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lenny said:
I agree but there is no one in the middle weight to do it. Chael Sonnen can hang with him because he is probably THE best wrestler out there but he cannot finish people. Sonnen is a bad dude but he needs more power. I think Sonnen will get another chance in a year or so if Silva stays in, which I believe he will hang around for some time still.
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Lenny is right on tuff to beat Silva in Middle Weight class he is just too dangerous on his feet. If someone comes along that is a great wrestler that can ground & pound Silva from the 1st bell it would be a great match. So far most can't even get into the 2nd round & Silva likes to glide & faint in round 1 to feel out what he will do early in round 2. Silva really is snake like when the lights go out happens so quickly you need to roll the tape again to see why this guy is flat out not getting up. The you marvel at his speed stand up & placement.
 
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mspease asked about Glover Teixeira. A guy like Glover who has speed, accuracy and big time power coupled to a jiu-Jitsu black belt in middle weight is the guy needed to take out Silva and that would equal a world class fighter. He may be able to give Jones a run but the athleticism and well rounded game of Jones is stagering.
 
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I compare Silva and Jones a lot. Silva has proven himself as the best in his weigh class and middle weight class fits his frame structure perfectly. I don't believe he needs to step up to light heavy weight and defeat Jones to prove anything cause he already proved everything he needs to prove. He has stepped into light heavy weight 3 times in his career so should he step up again and take on Jones,,,I honestly do not think he wants to do that as he knows Jones is a world class champion just as he is. We all wanna see it but I don't need to see it in reality because both are GREAT in their weight class. Now, I do want to see Chael Sonnen fight Jones because Sonnen want's it and Jones would stomp Sonnen to a blody pulp, more than he has ever been beaten in his life. You will not see a double leg take down from Chael cause Jones's take down defense is phenomenal and both are incredible wrestlers. No one can take anything away from Sonnen with his wrestling skills. I believe he is the best wrestler out there and self proclaimed also,,,lol
 
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whitedust

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I agree Anderson Silva should stay a middle weight continue to take on all comers as he already has. We may be we seeing a middle weight ledgend that will stand thru MMA history. But as you know any belt is there for someone to take away someday & we know what it will take to defeat Anderson Silva. In his prime Ali was untouchable but as always time & styles caught up with him but he kept going for the money. Silva's stand up is accurate as Ali's in his prime but then there is so much more to master in MMA than boxing that all you can compare is handspeed & power. To me Anderson Silva is very entertaining to watch so fast in & out then whack sleepy time. He is a true champion! :)
 
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whitedust

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I saw the Silva Bonnar fight review last night & the part they showed was the knockout. I'm not sure what Silva was thinking but dropped his hands with back to cage let Bonnar hit him at will then side stepped opened up a little space & nailed Bonnar with knees & lights out. When asked after the fight did the Bonnar shots hurt he said yes but this is what I trained for. Silva at 205 did not look cut had a bit of a belly maybe he didn't think he needed to do any more than he did to beat Bonnar. Silva not interested in a Jones fight said he woul drop to 185 but not sure who he will fight next. Seems Jones not interested in fighting Silva either Jones beating a bulked up Silva does not prove a whole lot, to me, so both want to fight other fighters in their weight class. Just have to see who comes along before Anderson Silva retires or would Jones drop to 185 for a payday?
 
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lenny

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hard to say bud. As I said before, they both are top notch champ regardless if they ever fight
 
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During the after fight discussion with Anderson Silva they asked if he was interested in a fight with GSP & Anderson glowed with a smile & said yes. This made no sense to me what weight class & how could GSP hold up to Anderson Silva power? GSP would need to bulk up & Anderson would need a severe cut. A good payday for both but does not make sense to me?
 
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if they don't fight where they are normally comfortable at than anything can happen. George would have NO chance with Anderson anyways. I just watched the fight with Jones v Bonnar and it was 4 years ago before Jones had all his experience and even that he takes Bonnar down like 5 times in the first round and drops Bonnar a t least 1 time with a serious spinning back fist. Jones would crush Silva in a fight because he has incredible wrestling skills just as Sonnen has and you see how easily Chael took silva to the canvas. I assure you that you do not want to be in the receiving end with Jones on top of you. Jones knows how to finish fights unlike Sonnen. If Jones fights Silva, I say Jones in round 2 with a ground and pound after a take down. Jones could also stand up with Silva easily. People do not want to speak out as much as i do favoring Jones over Silva because Silva has a long record of greatness and has squished the opponents and no doubt he is remarkable. Jones is 12 years younger, naturally fighting in a heavier weight class, strong, faster, with more MMA skills than Silva. Most people just want to see it because because both are great fighters and that is where the problem is at for me. If and when Silva losses to Jones, much will be taken away from Silva and he does not deserve that. Anderson has earned every bit of success and is one of the best fighters to walk the planet. Actually it's kind of stupid to match these guys up because people want to see it, screw the super fights at the expense of a legacy. This is where Dana needs to step back and stop catoring to every whim of the people. These fighters fight in a weight class for a reason and they should not pressure either Jones or Silva to fight for any amount of money. Dana thinks it is all about the money but I hope Silva sticks to his guns and does not take the fight. Jones does not want to fight Silva either and that is good.
 
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lenny

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George cuts big time weight and could fight at light weight but why,,, as I said in above post
 
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Scott Voss!! If you had a chance to see the movie "Here Comes The Boom", (just came out last Friday-hilarious!!) you know what I'm talkin about. An enormous will to win, and will not be denied:).
 
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whitedust

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Jones & Silva don't want to fight each other & that match up favors Jones big time. Silva was fat at 205 this time around & I don't think he took Bonnar seriously probably just bulked up to meet weight. I think Anderson dropped his hands to let Bonnar throw his best shots then ended the scam quickly after the free shots to his face. Typical Anderson Silva feel out for about 1 round then whack lights out. I think Sliva tries to let the fight go for at least 1 round so the fans don't feel too cheated. Silva & GSP still makes no sense to me sending GSP in to be slaughtered by Silva power just dumb.
 
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upbarleyboy said:
Scott Voss!! If you had a chance to see the movie "Here Comes The Boom", (just came out last Friday-hilarious!!) you know what I'm talkin about. An enormous will to win, and will not be denied:).
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Is the story line based on Roy "Big Country" Nelson? LOL!!! He had an enormous will to win as well. He also had an enormous Mid-section! He could take a punch or ten though, but could not last. That movie does look funny though, Kevin James is a riot.-Mezz
 
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lenny

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good points made,,,I would not want to start a fight without learning the little subtlety's of a opponents craftiness either. Feel em out, learn the reach and mannerisms of each action before you come in and eat the canvas. Some guys storm in and with accuracy and power you better hope you can weather the storm or be illusive. This is why I love this sport so much,, there is so much involved and these guy give their all to train, win, loose get paid,,,etc....

whitedust said:
Jones & Silva don't want to fight each other & that match up favors Jones big time. Silva was fat at 205 this time around & I don't think he took Bonnar seriously probably just bulked up to meet weight. I think Anderson dropped his hands to let Bonnar throw his best shots then ended the scam quickly after the free shots to his face. Typical Anderson Silva feel out for about 1 round then whack lights out. I think Sliva tries to let the fight go for at least 1 round so the fans don't feel too cheated. Silva & GSP still makes no sense to me sending GSP in to be slaughtered by Silva power just dumb.
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mezz said:
Is the story line based on Roy "Big Country" Nelson? LOL!!! He had an enormous will to win as well. He also had an enormous Mid-section! He could take a punch or ten though, but could not last. That movie does look funny though, Kevin James is a riot.-Mezz
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Last fight I saw with Big Country he finally is getting in shape still very heavy but seems to be taking fitness more seriously.
 
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