Fyi...there's still snow to sled

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Skylar

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Well, unless you live where the snow is, you cannot travel to get to it! It's driving me absolutely nuts that I will not get my April ride in this season.
 
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wirev

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My kids live in Ironwood and they told me yesterday that the State Troopers are stopping people traveling and asking them where they are going and what their business is, plus there is an 8PM curfew. Just sayin'.
 
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mrbb

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well up in WA< they have plenty(them are 12 ft poles along the road side)
, as do a lot of the mountain states and area's with elevation
but most have travel bans or stray at home effects in place, and not many places open for any stops, and gather they don't want folks traveling and stopping in places
 

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rp7x

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Polaris Dan drove into mass city to see his girl no one stopped him but then who is going to stop dan
 
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Skylar said:
Well, unless you live where the snow is, you cannot travel to get to it! It's driving me absolutely nuts that I will not get my April ride in this season.
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Seriously???? I guess YOU can't go then....ROTFLMAO

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indy_500 said:
Whose stoppin ya :)
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Skylar said:
The Gestapo.
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I cannot believe ...skylar....dont know where to park? The snow gnome himself....I am afraid that I cannot help then....oh vey....carry on
 
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wirev said:
My kids live in Ironwood and they told me yesterday that the State Troopers are stopping people traveling and asking them where they are going and what their business is, plus there is an 8PM curfew. Just sayin'.
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Looks like the above is fake news probably from FOX.

https://www.newsbreak.com/michigan/wakefield/news/0OdH6Bwp/you-wont-be-stopped-for-driving-around-police-say

https://www.wnmufm.org/post/you-wont-be-stopped-driving-around-police-say#stream/0

By the way, there is still 2 feet of snow in my back yard so Come on U.P. Damn it! What am I saying. Stay where you are.
 
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chords

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Law Enf has been instructed to back off. Unless its serious they wont and cant ignite the lights for no reason. And for real Flint MI put a 9pm - 7am curfew in effect 2 days ago.
 
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snobuilder said:
Social distancing?.....LMAO!....you guys sharing that Pepsi too?
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He!! Ya....nobody's sick...not worried at all virus is no different than the last 50 years of colds...its all BS IMO....to try to take down trump and install all the crooks again...only that ain't happening....lol....so were sledding as usual and having fun as usual....and sledding in late winter thru spring...as usual

Ps...the dems and viral nuts can all go pound sand
 
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wirev said:
My kids live in Ironwood and they told me yesterday that the State Troopers are stopping people traveling and asking them where they are going and what their business is, plus there is an 8PM curfew. Just sayin'.
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This is just another rumor spread by social media that is pure bs........

HOUGHTON — A persistent rumor continues circulate throughout Michigan, including the western Upper Peninsula, that law enforcement agents are stopping motorists on suspicion of violating the state’s stay at home order. No, police cannot stop motorists on the simple suspicion that the driver is violating Michigan’s stay at home order, according to Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel.
In a published memorandum, Guidance on Traffic Stops, Nessel stated that no, police cannot pull motorists over for that alone. The memorandum was in response to rumors circulating throughout the state, as well as the Copper Country, that police are pulling motorists over under that suspicion.
“Absent (are) articulable facts that would lead a police officer to believe the driver of the vehicle was in violation of Executive Order 2020-21,” the statement reads, “a stop strictly to inquire about compliance is improper.”

A police officer may properly make an investigative stop of an automobile, if the stop is based upon specific, articulable facts which, the summary states, when taken with rational inferences from these facts, would lead a reasonable police officer to believe that a crime had been committed or criminal activity is taking place.
“Or a violation of a traffic law,” Houghton Police Chief John Donnelly said. “We still have to perform legal traffic stops, but there has to be a clear violation of the Motor Vehicle Code. We cannot pull people over for no reason in the state of Michigan. We have to have a legal reason. Normally, that’s going to be a traffic violation, or if there is obvious criminal activity occurring.”

This standard is subjective, however. There is no definite line between what a reasonable officer would or would not find to be evidence of a crime. To meet this standard, law enforcement officers must articulate the facts they believe show a suspect has committed a crime.
Examples of reasonable articulable facts are running a stop sign, or speeding. Articulable fact come into play if an officer observes a motorist driving erratically, such as driving too slow or swerving within a lane, that may lead the officer to driver the motorist is intoxicated. Once an officer has stopped a motorist, he or she can, however, ask reasonable questions, like the driver’s purpose for the trip or their destination.
The AG’s summary also states that a traffic stop is reasonable “as long as the driver is detained only for a reasonable period of time to ask reasonable questions concerning the alleged violation of law and its context, to obtain additional information about the offense, e.g., the circumstances leading to its commission, the reason for the stop, the driver’s destination, travel plans, the purpose and itinerary for the trip, in order to determine what violations have taken place, and whether to issue a warning, a citation, or to make an arrest.”

Nessel, in her summary, said that considering the foregoing laws and authority, the lone act of driving, in absence of articulable facts, such as an alleged violation of Executive Order 2020-21, does not satisfy Probable Cause for a traffic stop.

Captain John Halpin, District 8 (Upper Peninsula) Commander of the Michigan State Police, also addressed the nagging rumor.
“That is not true,” Halpin said in a press release. “We are not just randomly stopping vehicles to see if people should be out or shouldn’t be out. We’re requesting that people use common sense and they know if they should or shouldn’t be,”

Officials believe the rumor may have started due to essential businesses asking their employers to carry letters stating that they are allowed to drive into work, the release said. This would be necessary if the Governor had issued a “shelter in place” order.

“You don’t need to carry a letter saying that you’re entitled to go to work, you don’t need to carry a letter to go to the grocery store, or travel from your primary home to your secondary home,” said Matt Wiese, Marquette County Prosecuting Attorney, according to the release. “Actually, the order doesn’t restrict you from just going out for a drive.”
A March 30 Lansing State Journal article stated that “Although Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s executive order mandates everyone except workers deemed essential stay at home, several exceptions apply.”

Anyone is allowed to go to the grocery store, the Journal stated, engage in outdoor activities, pick up food from a restaurant, care for minors and elderly people, or people with disabilities.
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eao

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Rumor spreading is rampant.......................
Health Department struggles to stop public speculation

<aside id="article_details"> <nav> Coronavirus </nav> <time>Apr 2, 2020
</time> Graham Jaehnig

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gjaehnig@mininggazette.com


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</aside> HANCOCK — The Western Upper Peninsula Health Department says it will not issue press releases on positive cases of COVID-19 disclosing the community in which the case is pending. The reason for the decision, said WUPHD Health Officer/Administrator Cathryn Beer, is a result of public hostility, rumor-spreading and speculation leading to false information in the community. She said while the complete information will eventually be made public, the department continues to debate how to accomplish that.


“When I do a press release on an individual positive,” she explained, “people are being raked over the coals in the community over it,” said Beer. “People are trying to figure out who that positive is, and where they’ve been.”



In reference to the swirl of speculation and rumors surrounding the recently released information of the positive COVID -19 test in Houghton County, Beer said that is exactly what the WUPHD is seeking to avoid.


“People are taking bits and pieces of various rumors and putting them together, and that’s were it really derails.”
A March 29 release from the WUPHD in reference to the first positive case of COVID-19 in Houghton County sparked community speculation and rumors over which hospital was handling the case and who the patient is.


“But I can tell you, the families that it impacts, that they know that people are talking about them, because people are not nice about it,” Beer said.
That is why she included in the press release the recommendation that people get their information from good and reliable sources to gather information.
“At this time, I advise the public to be diligent, yet level-headed in prevention efforts,” Beer stated in the release. “I urge you to get your information and situation updates from reputable sources such as the Health Department or your physician.”
Beer said she also advised the WUPHD to stop posting Michigan COVID-19 numbers on their website, because doing so creates more turmoil and confusion.
“Then, (the readers) start arguing that the numbers that we posted are not the right numbers that are currently on the website,” she explained. “Those were posted a couple of hours before.”


The most effective way to keep the number of positive COVID-19 cases low throughout the Upper Peninsula is for everyone to diligently observe the Stay home, Stay Safe order and to maintain social distancing. The orders put in place by Governor Gretchen Whitmer were done so on the recommendations of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).


Beer has said repeatedly that “We need to understand that this is probably already wide-spread in the community,” and to take the necessary and recommended steps to avoiding the virus. The best way to accomplish that is by only leaving home when absolutely necessary and when it is necessary to leave home, diligently practice social distancing.
It is necessary to go to grocery stores. In order for people to know how to protect themselves while shopping, the WUPHD recently posted a guide, “Social Distancing in Grocery Stores” on its Facebook site. Because not everyone uses social media, the guide is posted above.


In the meantime, Beer said the WUPHD is continuing to work on ways to get information to the public without it creating wide-spread panic.
“So, we are trying to get a method of reporting our testing out the partners here,” she said.
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Tracker

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There's only ONE SLED better though.....my 2016 XF 8000 EFI LE CROSSTREK......THE MONGOOSE....kills any snake or sidewinder it encounters......LMAO....I love that sled....but the general lee has taken more hits and abuses than any man ever seen and keeps on ticking....I would of never believed a SKIDONT could cut the mustard if I hadn't seen it with my own eye....that's one tough sled driven by one tough logger....THE MARKER is his name...legendary I will say

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