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smokenjoe

Member
Thank you for your concerns on Trail 11 south. Unfortunately this year it will remain closed due too private timber sales, and private property. We have been looking at re-routing it to avoid closures in the future.




This year we lost easements on Trail 2 and Trail 11N due to trespassing and excessively loud machines so our efforts had been directed at keeping Trail 2 between Bessemer and Wakefield open.




Please know that 11S is still a major priority, and we have been in contact with the Forest service and Private land owners to find a Permanent trail for that connection between MI and WI.




We are dedicated to creating a enjoyable riding experience, any questions or concerns feel free to e-mail us at wupss@outlook.com, Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WesternUPSnowSakers.

My direct contact number is 906.285.1140




Thank you,




Robb Youngberg



Thank you from the WUPSS Board


Robb Youngberg - President

John Hetfeld - Vice President

Lisa Hetfeld - Grant Director

Christina Youngberg - Marketing Director

Zach Wangelin - Trail Boss



























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favoritos

Well-known member
We do appreciate your efforts.


Do you think there will ever be a trail between Wakefield and Marinesco that does not run on the side of the road?
 
Thanks for the update on this. It is too bad that 11S will not be usable for this winter. As far as Bessemer and Wakefield go, we were up that way last winter and it was disheartening to see how tracked up many areas in the vicinity of the trail were. It's no wonder they are having troubles up that way. There was one area right next to the trail that had either large dirt or sand piles on it and the sled tracks were all over this piece of property. It is unfortunate that this level of disrespect is happening to these landowners and does not surprise me that trails are being lost. I wouldn't put up with it either on my property. Hopefully they can make the connection with another piece of property so the trail can go on.
 

retrocat

New member
I'm a rider that rides only groomed trails. I have no interest in going off trail. I own sleds that are setup for groomed trails. What I see most often are mountain sleds being ridden on groomed trails and these are the guys that are abusing the private areas. They jump off trail wherever they want without any consideration for the property they are riding on. I would like to see long track sleds banned from riding groomed trails as they tear up the trails. A sufficient fine for riding on groomed trails would discourage them from accessing these private lands. Mountain sleds belong in the mountains and save the groomed trails for the responsible trail riders.
 

mezz

Well-known member
It's not the "Mountain Sled" that is the problem, it's the moron behind the bars. The insinuation that "trail riders" are "responsible" is laughable, again, it's the moron behind the bars that gives us "all" a black eye. Peeps that live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.-Mezz
 

sweeperguy

Active member
I'm a rider that rides only groomed trails. I have no interest in going off trail. I own sleds that are setup for groomed trails. What I see most often are mountain sleds being ridden on groomed trails and these are the guys that are abusing the private areas. They jump off trail wherever they want without any consideration for the property they are riding on. I would like to see long track sleds banned from riding groomed trails as they tear up the trails. A sufficient fine for riding on groomed trails would discourage them from accessing these private lands. Mountain sleds belong in the mountains and save the groomed trails for the responsible trail riders.

I see an awful lot of trail sleds being ridden in an irresponsible manner also. Both on trail and off. Its not just the long tracks that are the problem here. There are many trail sleds with cans, and that is stated as one of the contributing factors in this instance also. I also see alot of "trail" sleds being ridden off trail also. I had a short track 121, sled for many years that I rode off trail also. My current ride is a 144 track, (a small mountain sled, or deep snow sled) which is going to be, in the near future, considered a short track, (I'm thinking 121's will be phased out and short will be 137, 139, 144). so how would you determine a "mountain" sled for the purpose of handing out tickets? I think that educating riders, and or having clearly designated off trail areas, (for the visiting snowmobile riders) It is a known fact that Michigan does allow off trail riding, but when trying to find out where to do it legally, one runs into getting answers such as, "Do your research" or "If you don't know, I'm not telling, cuz I don't want you to track up my off trail areas" like its their own personal playground.
 

Skylar

Super Moderator
Staff member
I'm a rider that rides only groomed trails. I have no interest in going off trail. I own sleds that are setup for groomed trails. What I see most often are mountain sleds being ridden on groomed trails and these are the guys that are abusing the private areas. They jump off trail wherever they want without any consideration for the property they are riding on. I would like to see long track sleds banned from riding groomed trails as they tear up the trails. A sufficient fine for riding on groomed trails would discourage them from accessing these private lands. Mountain sleds belong in the mountains and save the groomed trails for the responsible trail riders.

I guess since I ride a mountain sled, I will quit contributing 2 days in September every year, except for this past year, to helping get the trails ready for all you responsible trail riders. 510 miles round trip I drive to do this. But, no more, because I am an irresponsible mountain sled rider.
 

jedoyle

Active member
I do believe in hand signals but only in the dark. J/K.
I always get a good laugh when you pass someone right after it has gotten dark and all you can make out is them attempting to hand signal you.
 

allen_shores

New member
I personally don't think anyone trully believes that all mountain sleds are bad. I ride a trail sled, but I have also rode out west, and it was a great experience. I am trying to look at this from both sides. My observations the last few years is many riders riding off trail. Crossing trails all over the place many times leaving large piles of snow on what was a smooth trail. Even had one cross right in front of me coming down the trail nearly causing a accident. Yes it was a long track sled. I have also almost been run over by a trail sled coming the opposite direction on a trail. And at one time when I was younger it might have been me that was riding over my head. I think at times we have all made decisions that we're not proud off. I think more education is needed. The Snowmobile safty class I took 40 years ago was really quite extensive. Compared to the class my 26 year old son took when he was 12. And now my 12 year old daughter took her class on line. In both cases its now my response ability to provide her with trail educate, and how that will protect the right to ride trails in the future. These discussions are good to make us all aware that things need to change or we will loose the trails. This site is a great community of sledders as a whole. Let's not point fingers, but maybe work on solutions for the future. Ok I'm done.
 
Just got my SnowTech tonight and on page 8 there is an article about Michigan DNR purchases permanent trail easements near Wakefield. Not sure if this is the exact same location as the problem areas?
 

utinans

New member
Have any of you seen the new walking bike path that runs right along trail 2 from hurley through ironwood and splits trail 2 after ironwood ,heard they wanna run it all they way to wakefield,i wonder if this is any reason they are having trouble with trail 2,it is paved ,anybody that used to stay at indianhead motel wonder how they will access trail 2 anymore as i did walk new path and saw they have blocked old access points with big boulders.Dont get me wrong it is a nice path but will like to see how they get along with the moter crowd,i wonder if they will plow the path in the winter.I just hope all our trail passes are not used for projects like this
 

whitedust

Well-known member
I'm a rider that rides only groomed trails. I have no interest in going off trail. I own sleds that are setup for groomed trails. What I see most often are mountain sleds being ridden on groomed trails and these are the guys that are abusing the private areas. They jump off trail wherever they want without any consideration for the property they are riding on. I would like to see long track sleds banned from riding groomed trails as they tear up the trails. A sufficient fine for riding on groomed trails would discourage them from accessing these private lands. Mountain sleds belong in the mountains and save the groomed trails for the responsible trail riders.
Ha Ha Ha ...you can't be serious with a post like that! lol
 

pinestump

Member
I'm a rider that rides only groomed trails. I have no interest in going off trail. I own sleds that are setup for groomed trails. What I see most often are mountain sleds being ridden on groomed trails and these are the guys that are abusing the private areas. They jump off trail wherever they want without any consideration for the property they are riding on. I would like to see long track sleds banned from riding groomed trails as they tear up the trails. A sufficient fine for riding on groomed trails would discourage them from accessing these private lands. Mountain sleds belong in the mountains and save the groomed trails for the responsible trail riders.

Wow better jump on the owner of this site also and myself.
 
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