General Carbide information
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snowfish - It has been awhile but I think about 5/8 of an inch. Screw them to the rubber thingy with stainless screws so they don't fall out.
harvest1121
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Here is a picture of the shim in a ski already. Its not very thick.
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snowfish - like i said it has been awhile. Screw the shim to the ski and not the rubber thingy. Sorry. The purpose here is to tip the front of the ski at least level or down from its normal stock position. I would think this would change from brand to brand. The sled I did it to was an '07 Yami Vector. 5/8 got me level on that model.
harvest1121
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The shim in the back keeps the ski down when you are giving it gas. So it is moving down. The front end is just being brought up so it keeps it closer to the ground and even.
http://www.bergstromskegs.com/oui/why_shims.htm
http://www.bergstromskegs.com/oui/why_shims.htm
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Dabs - Harvest is right. I am sorry for my mis-speak. As I said it has been awhile. Level is what you are after. Also allow for a little compression of the rubber stoppers.
Most of the talk surrounding ski shimming involves Yami sleds. For many years the general feeling has been that Yami skis just plain suck. It is true that a person can get rid of many of the ill handling characteristics of the stock skis by putting on just about any aftermarket ski. However this really isn't necessary unless you are really hard core.
Yami has spent a lot of time and testing on their front ends as far as spindle angle, spindle placement and everything else that goes together with an A-arm front end. Keep in mind Artic Cat has been constantly changing their AFS front end since the 90's. Right now it is a pretty good front end. Yami just got going with it in '03 with the RX1. I'm sure that Yami is aware of the bitches related to their skis. It is a source of constant conversation on Totallyamaha as well as this site. I believe that the reason they don't change their ski design is that Yami doesn't think the skis are the problem. It is more the angle of attack that causes the dancing and drifting than the actual ski itself. Yami is just like the other mfgs in that when they sell you a new sled they give you just barely enough front carbide to get out the door. After that it is up to the individual to get it set up the way they want. For a lot of Yami applications it helps to shim the skis. It is a simple and cheap solution. After that just about any choice of front carbide will work fine for groomed trail use. There must be applications where the stock ski angle is useful. Keep in mind these sleds are sold all over the world and I doubt that there are very many other places that have thousands of miles of groomed trails to ride on.
Most of the talk surrounding ski shimming involves Yami sleds. For many years the general feeling has been that Yami skis just plain suck. It is true that a person can get rid of many of the ill handling characteristics of the stock skis by putting on just about any aftermarket ski. However this really isn't necessary unless you are really hard core.
Yami has spent a lot of time and testing on their front ends as far as spindle angle, spindle placement and everything else that goes together with an A-arm front end. Keep in mind Artic Cat has been constantly changing their AFS front end since the 90's. Right now it is a pretty good front end. Yami just got going with it in '03 with the RX1. I'm sure that Yami is aware of the bitches related to their skis. It is a source of constant conversation on Totallyamaha as well as this site. I believe that the reason they don't change their ski design is that Yami doesn't think the skis are the problem. It is more the angle of attack that causes the dancing and drifting than the actual ski itself. Yami is just like the other mfgs in that when they sell you a new sled they give you just barely enough front carbide to get out the door. After that it is up to the individual to get it set up the way they want. For a lot of Yami applications it helps to shim the skis. It is a simple and cheap solution. After that just about any choice of front carbide will work fine for groomed trail use. There must be applications where the stock ski angle is useful. Keep in mind these sleds are sold all over the world and I doubt that there are very many other places that have thousands of miles of groomed trails to ride on.
Scott Bergstrom recommended the shims to me also to remedy the hard turning on my 06 Fusion 600. I haven't put them on yet, but I'm excited to see how they work this year. Also bought the 6" carbides to go along with it. Bergstrom told me that new skis or spindles would be a waste of money for me at least for trail riding.
michiganmtncat
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I have always run six inch dooly carbides and love them, but as much as you guys are talkin up these triple points i might have to check it out.
Gotta call him. I didn't get an email response either. I was on the website last weekend and I think he said there are two different email addresses on the site, only one works. He was very helpful over the phone. I put the carbides and the shims on this weekend. Can't wait to try them out.