Get Rid Of The Corn Gas!

[G]

As far as the environment is concerned I just don't see that much benefit in the USA bending over backward and imposing Ethanol blends plus trying to get rid of coal plus ramming wind and solar - neither which is remotely close to cash flowing without subsidies - to try to save the earth. China and India are polluting water and air at a record pace and are not open to changing their ways. I am not opposed to obvious environmental preservation but the US is nit picking while much of the rest of the world doesn't seem to care. Until China and India and everyone else gets on board with a comprehensive plan it is all a wasted effort. Our government should be spending their time pressuring these mega polluting countries to clean up their act rather than shoving a bunch of restrictive and expensive policies on us. The fact is that the world is getting more polluted every day despite everything that has been shoved down our throats since the EPA was created.

 

[Woodtic]

I couldn't have said it better Grub.

 

[whitedust]

When was the last time there were no corn flakes at the grocery? Or the farmer had no corn to feed the livestock? Never; is a good answer.

Many times over many years livestock had to be killed due to lack of local livestock feed due to droughts or other weather conditions then apply that to corn for gas as well & makes bad times even worse! USA chicken, beef, ham products go way up in price everytime this happens....you just don't remember as usually lasts 6-10 months before feed becomes available again. I would think some of these industries pay John big bucks for forecasts for planning & planting corn crops.

 

[old abe]

WD there is a crop report due out this coming week. Looks as if we will have 1.74 billion bushel carry over on corn at the end of this crop year. My father used to feed out 900 to 1200 head of "fat cattle" per year. They were usually 1300 to 1400 lb angus butchers. As I grew up I did not know of anything less than " prime beef" on our table. Yes we ate very good, and still due. However, we cannot sell that kind of beef or the pork we raised then now because it wasn't "lean". Yep to much CORN in the feed. 2012 was the poorest corn crop raised since 1988. We never ran out of corn in either of those years. In all my years I have yet to see any livestock killed in this country due to the lack of corn for feeding. Most of all the "feed value" in the corn is retained in the DDG's in producing ethanol. Thus you have cheaper feed. You will find that "speculation" controls commodities prices no matter it be grain, oil, gas, LP gas or what ever. More so than supply/demand. If you here the word "shortage" on anything, look out. It looks as if you will probably have to start calling out "sugar gas". Yes sugar beets, and the Brazilian sugar cane ethanol is being used in your corn gas. One other thing WD, that beef I ate growing up I didn't need a "steak knife" to cut. Try that today!

 

[pistons]

Well said old abe

 

[whitedust]

WD there is a crop report due out this coming week. Looks as if we will have 1.74 billion bushel carry over on corn at the end of this crop year. My father used to feed out 900 to 1200 head of "fat cattle" per year. They were usually 1300 to 1400 lb angus butchers. As I grew up I did not know of anything less than " prime beef" on our table. Yes we ate very good, and still due. However, we cannot sell that kind of beef or the pork we raised then now because it wasn't "lean". Yep to much CORN in the feed. 2012 was the poorest corn crop raised since 1988. We never ran out of corn in either of those years. In all my years I have yet to see any livestock killed in this country due to the lack of corn for feeding. Most of all the "feed value" in the corn is retained in the DDG's in producing ethanol. Thus you have cheaper feed. You will find that "speculation" controls commodities prices no matter it be grain, oil, gas, LP gas or what ever. More so than supply/demand. If you here the word "shortage" on anything, look out. It looks as if you will probably have to start calling out "sugar gas". Yes sugar beets, and the Brazilian sugar cane ethanol is being used in your corn gas. One other thing WD, that beef I ate growing up I didn't need a "steak knife" to cut. Try that today!

Yep corn feed is fat feed for all involved humans too..lol.. I'm very happy to report more & more Efree gas is available in the northwoods most Krist stations have it also in Phelps again at Phelps Convenience Center. I'm very happy to have the choice & get away for ethanol gas & given the choice I'll always take efree gas & run it in all my trucks,cars ,tractors & toys. Your choice if you like ethanol gas use it but not me no way I'll use efree gas everytime I can find it.

 

[slimcake]

One other thing WD, that beef I ate growing up I didn't need a "steak knife" to cut. Try that today!

I got a 1/4 beef coming and that animal was 1700 pounds before butcher. Looking forward to eating steaks with out a steak knife myself!! Sorry for the off topic....

 

[old abe]

That is the way to go on everything WD. Just give the consumer the choice, and it will work itself out. As for a 1700 lb butcher? I'm partial to the Angus breed, 1400 lb and they could barely walk. Some of the exotics get very large, but can't compete with the Angus on taste or tender. Just my choice.