Hey wolfy, So the vikes stomp on the packers TWICE, and they are 7 - 4, so you calling the packers over-rated? Not a good team???? Ravens are 6 - 5, beat them too. Can't help we've got Detroit and Chicago in the division. Look at the rest of the league. Not many teams at all better than the 7 - 4 record of the Packers. The tests will come with Arizona, Cincy, and the rest of the season. But they aren't just barely winning, they are WHOOPING people, like they should on those bad teams.....