Heavy Loads of Crap may poop on snowmobilers parade...

[snocrazy]

Sounds to me like the farmers and s**t haulers want special treatment to haul heavy loads. Farms that large are businesses. When I hire trucks to haul my steel they are taking things into their own hands if they decide to haul heavy. Why should a farm business be treated special? Yes farmers feed the world, but the steel I sell builds the tractors and buildings to allow them to farm. Farmers and their never ending subsidies always think they are special!!!

You bring up a valid point. I think the reason they are wanting an exception is due to the limited window in which they can spread the manure. Also a lot of times they are just crossing the roads or going a couple of miles to the fields.

I just think its anothr way for the local government to generate revenue. These laws have been on the books and not neccessarily enforced. Now that most governments are broke because of poor planning and spending they are taking it to us.

I saw a case recently where a 15 year old girl was given a $300 fine for operating a lemonade stand with out a business license. This is a sad. Way to teach a kid to its not worth trying to make a buck. Stay home and collect free $ from the government. This is the word we live in now.

 

[doomsman]

Since then, the Sheriff's Department has issued six citations, including a $7,900 ticket to an Arpin-based company, After All Inc., in October for having a 134,580-pound load -- more than 50,000 pounds over the limit.

A quote from the article, seems that is a real load of B.S.. I have to come down on the side of the ticket, those weights will shred a road bed quickly and there is no fix short of a full rebuild. Fine the over weights or raise taxes to fix the roads. The DNR has upped its rules regarding waste spreading do to eutrophication of the water ways and lakes. A good thing in my view. MHO

This isn't grandpa pulling a honney wagon down the road.

 

[Cat Woman]

With a limited window and facing possible fines it is no wonder the farmer is using (by not using) HIS land to get everyone's attention. They're not personally taking it out on the snowmobilers, it's a pissing match with the county/state.

 

[pfd_crew]

i know every truck that leaves our plantsite over weight (80000lbs) has to have a permit, or they dont get to pick up the coil of steel we produce. After all inc. is a waste hauling company, not a local farmer. 50,000lbs over weight is rediculas, that company knows exactly what the law is, and they are choosing to break it.

 

[whitedust]

Don't know if these are small family farms or the big corporate types. I know in southern WI the small farm is all but gone all belong to big business even tho housing structures are still there either rented or boarded up. I'm thankful either way large or small for trail land use but big guys should know the laws & afford the fines as part of doing business. The little guy well could break him as his operation is already tight.

 

[EXCESSIVE FORCE]

I think with the HUGE flotation tires the actual ground pressure is reduced substantially.........Steel coils can be hauled ANYTIME,but the manure has a VERY small window to be hauled.......

Since then, the Sheriff's Department has issued six citations, including a $7,900 ticket to an Arpin-based company, After All Inc., in October for having a 134,580-pound load -- more than 50,000 pounds over the limit.

A quote from the article, seems that is a real load of B.S.. I have to come down on the side of the ticket, those weights will shred a road bed quickly and there is no fix short of a full rebuild. Fine the over weights or raise taxes to fix the roads. The DNR has upped its rules regarding waste spreading do to eutrophication of the water ways and lakes. A good thing in my view. MHO

This isn't grandpa pulling a honney wagon down the road.

 

[jeff]

no too difficult to solve...... sell them overweight permits just like they do for the trucking companies and veggie haullers that have a small window in the season to run their butts off with overweight loads. The money made from the permits goes into the account to fix and upkeep the roads.

 

[jr37]

Don't know if these are small family farms or the big corporate types. I know in southern WI the small farm is all but gone all belong to big business even tho housing structures are still there either rented or boarded up. I'm thankful either way large or small for trail land use but big guys should know the laws & afford the fines as part of doing business. The little guy well could break him as his operation is already tight.

The farms at issue right now are the bigger "corporate" farms. The smaller farms can't afford, don't need such big equipment. I know some may think that they break the law, they pay the fine. With the rules the DNR has placed on the bigger farms, they need a variance to haul their waste. If not a variance they need to be able to obtain a purchaed permit to excede the weight limit for a certain number of days. I know of some big farms that can haul all of their manure in a few days to a week, twice a year. We are not talking about ongoing, weeks at a time of over-weight usage of a road. If the DNR has to keep a tight reign on run-off to protect our waterways, then the state needs to be able to let the farmers do their job when time allows, without fear of huge fines. There needs to be a middle ground.

 

[hamburgchf]

I have been following this site for some time and feel I have to comment. I have been a farmer most of my life, but the problem here is not the overload itself, it is the amount of overload, no one can be allowed this big of an overload, 80000 lbs is state law without a variance, but if you are going to give a variance for manure haulers to exceed the law by up to 50000 lbs, you have to be ready to do the same for others. [Most] of these manure haulers hauling these big loads are commercial haulers, making a living doing this type of work, not much difference than someone hauling gravel or logs or whatever. I can understand an allowance of some kind for overload, for manure haulers, but up to 50000 lbs, I dont think so, [SOUNDS LIKE A BIG CAN OF WORMS TO ME]

 

[frnash]

Solution: More — smaller — trucks. Duh!
Oh yes,more expense as well, perhaps less than the fines?

 

[jr37]

Solution: More — smaller — trucks. Duh!
Oh yes,more expense as well, perhaps less than the fines?

The farmers have argued that point. They say that doubling the amount of loads they haul with a vehicle with a smaller footprint will do more road damage then a big load on big floatation tires.

I know of some farmers that run a tandem or tri-axle truck with wide floatation tires. They still have fairly good floatation in the fields, while making alot better time on the road then a tractor and tanker would. If the law for farmers doesn't change, this may be the best way to transport manure in the future.

 

[whitedust]

Solution: More — smaller — trucks. Duh!
Oh yes,more expense as well, perhaps less than the fines?

Had this dicussion at ski club about a girl in a orange bikini. "Well.... when you stuff 2 crates of oranges into 1 crate you either squash the oranges to cram them in there & spill a few or at some point you have to admitt you have too many dang oranges & need a bigger crate".lol Seems to apply here too.

 

[Team Elkhorn]

Had this dicussion at ski club about a girl in a orange bikini. "Well.... when you stuff 2 crates of oranges into 1 crate you either squash the oranges to cram them in there & spill a few or at some point you have to admitt you have too many dang oranges & need a bigger crate".lol Seems to apply here too.

Pete, seems like maybe you should have posted this on the boobies thread instead.

 

[whitedust]

Probably works for either thread.LOL

 

[catalac]

I read this article today. I thought it was pretty crazy. It seems farmers are being fined for hauling over 80,000 lbs of cow crap on county roads. Just another way for the broke mismanaged government to generate revenue if you ask me. Now the farmers are punishing snowmobilers by not allowing trails to cross their property in attempt to get back at the man.That stinks!

http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/ar...owmobilers?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

I think they should have used your heading for the newspaper heading instead of theirs. I just think it's perfect for the story.
Heavy loads of CRAP may POOP on snowmobilers parade! Ha. Love it.