Hooking up an electric shield...HELP!

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formula_iii

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I have a 2002 Polaris xcsp M-10...non-electric start trying to hook up my electic shield...so far I have only been able to find wires that produce less than 5 volts...directions say between 12-15??? any ideas on what is any easy hookup...I have already drilled a hole for the plug to fit into so would be best if wire were located under hood and not in handle bar area where warmers etc are..Have wiring diagram but not much help...when someone explains I am an idiot as far as wiring so explain to me like I'm a six year old!!!!
thanks for the help!
Tim
 
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anonomoose

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Headlight tail light and hand warmers all use 12 volts.

Get a cheap voltmeter, at home depot, and wire a threading needle to the positive side of the probe.

Attach with wire or allegator clip the black to the grounded surface of the sled...anywhere you are sure is gounded.

Then set the meter to volts DC, to read between 12-20 volts.

Then insert the needle into various wires with the motor running to find the 12 volts.

There is almost certainly a connector ended wire sitting close by which exhibits 12 volts and would be the logical place to hook your positive side up with. Be sure to hook the other wire to ground.

Always put a fuse in line on the postive side so you don't short out your whole sled electrics if something gets pinched or grounded.
 
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chords

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Usually Yellow and Brown and not polarity sensitive. Which means it doesnt matter which shield wire goes to Brown. Since you need it under the hood, splice or maybe a connecter around the headlite.
 
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formula_iii

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Found a spot coming right off the ignition two prong one black one one brown wire... voltage meter tested between 14.69-14.72.. tried this same thing on my 99 xc sp 700 same basic sled as my 02 but when same spot was used on the 99 had to turn switch to 200 and it registered between 89-90 volts does this seem right? would not register when dial on meter was set at 20.... If I use the accs plug by foot which would not register even 1 volt... how do I set it up ....yellow wire... 2 red wires coming together as one wire....which is postive ...which negative voltage meter at that spot was useless....
 
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joshwagner

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I'm a little rusty, but I think those shields can run AC or DC, the 89-90 volts you're reading is likely AC power, unregulated from the stator.

Josh
 
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formula_iii

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So bottom line I can use the one on my 02 but not my 99? the ignition one...I did find the one on the 02 by the left foot..that was the one that would not test any voltage???I was wondering how to hook it up as it is a two plug banana one yellow wire, two red becoming one at the plug <font color="ff0000">&#149;</font><font color="ff0000">&#149;</font><font color="ff0000">&#149;</font><font color="ff0000">&#149;</font><font color="ff0000">&#149;</font><font color="ff0000">&#149;</font> one positive one negative or what? I really only want to use a shield on my 02...my son for some reason does not fog up nearly as much in his helmet although I was thinking about a shield for him for Christmas! Can I hook his up to the same plug on my although mine is at 14.7 DC his is between 89-90 AC? same plug same look same location (this is the one coming off the ignition) ...what if I switched my voltage meter to AC when testing will the number of volts change or will that stay the same? I just want to know where to hook these up and be done with it!
Again Polaris 1)02 xcsp edge M-10 700
2) 99 xcsp indy 700
 
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anonomoose

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Josh is right....switch voltmeter to AC on non-battery sled and splice in the hot side to the 90 AC volt side and go to ground on the other...use a fuse though to protect the system if there is a short.
 
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formula_iii

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I tried to use the factory connection that is right by the key...I believe it is for the electric start...I used a tap connector but did not matter as soon as I plugged in the shield into the rca jack the sled is killed...even if I just put the wires into the factory connector....even if I put the ground onto a bolt on the frame...same thing she dies...I am going to try the accs plug someone told me about....uses a banana connection but not sure if to plug into yellow single wire or red double wire as there is two plugs there....
any suggestions crossfire or anyone...Very confused at this point...Plus according to voltage meter nothing else produces more than 10 volts under the hood....If I use the accs plug hot to the plug ...ground to the bolt on frame?
Anybody within 20 miles of Morrison willing to do this for pizza and beer?
I'm pissed, frustrated and down right confused...I was told this was going to be easy....well it was on my sled with a battery...no battery...totally lost!
HELP!!!!
 
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anonomoose

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I repeat....Headlight tail light and hand warmers all use 12 volts (or 90+ AC).

Get a cheap voltmeter, at home depot, and wire a threading needle to the positive side of the probe.

Attach with wire or allegator clip the black to the grounded surface of the sled...anywhere you are sure is gounded.

Then set the meter to volts DC (or AC), to read between 12-20 volts (or 90+ volts with motor running).

<font color="ff0000">Then insert the needle into various wires</font> with the motor running to find the 12 volts (or 90+ volts).

There is almost certainly a connector ended wire sitting close by which exhibits 12 volts (or 90+ volts) and would be the logical place to hook your positive side up with. Be sure to hook the other wire to ground.

Always put a fuse in line on the postive side so you don't short out your whole sled electrics if something gets pinched or grounded.


If the motor dies when you hook it up, you are grounding out the sled electrics and that isn't what you want to do.

Also I believe there is small component you can buy that will convert the AC to DC using diodes to prevent backfeed of the electrics. Might want to do some searching or call the maker of the shield and get some tech support for installation.
 
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formula_iii

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I have a spot that works in terms of volts but when when I put the positive (hot) red wire from voltmeter into rca plug it reads 14.67 volts...I plug the shield in it dies!!!! I am using a male to male adapter....could that be the problem?
 
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stevis

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These shields can run on either AC or DC power so there are a few ways you can connect your plug. The first, easiest and I think is the correct way is to connect it to the voltage regulator. The regulator is located behind the plastic cover that wraps around the gas tank and is mounted to the frame just above the left foot rest. On the regulator wiring harness is an empty bullet plug connection (yellow wire). You can connect the red wire on your shield wiring harness directly into this bullet plug. The black wire on you shield harness is the ground. All you will need to do is connect it to any bolt/screw that screws into the frame or engine. This will give you AC power. Another way is to find any yellow wire (all yellow wires are AC power) and splice the red wire into it and ground the black wire the same as the first option. The third way is to connect to a DC source. These sources are the head light or tail light. Find one of these wiring harnesses and splice into it. The brown wire is the ground and the other wire (color varies) is the positive. If you decide to connect to the tail light you will need to test the wires. This harness has three wires one brown wire for the ground, one wire for the tail light and one for the brake light. You need to test for the one that has constant voltage. The wire that does not have constant power is for the brake light and will only have power when the brake is applied.
I know someone will chime in and say it does not matter which wire you hook to the power. This is true the shield will work no matter which wire you connect to the power or ground. However, if you hook the black wire to power this will connect power to the outside connection on your plug. If you connect it this way and the exposed metal on your plug contacts any metal on your sled it could short out your electrical system.
I have a 02 600 XCSP that I installed a shield plug on when I bought it. I used the regulator method and after 10,000 plus miles I have not had a problem. Hope this helps.
 
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