Info on Michigan trail permits

polarisrider1

New member
January/February 2012

Where Your Money Is Spent

Many of you are wondering why the increase in the trail permit was needed. Well, quite frankly, it’s a matter of keeping our trails smooth, while costs to keep them smooth continue to increase.

Here are some numbers for you to think about when you purchase your $45 trail permit this year. The average cost of groomer tractor is between $150,000 and $125,000. Groomers needed for high snow areas run as much as $250,000, and that’s just for the tractors. Drags run from $17,000 to $30,000. These costs have continued to increase over the last few years, so we aren’t able to purchase all of the new equipment necessary. This means that maintenance costs on older equipment is also increasing. We are continuing to play catch up in terms of equipment purchases, and the cost of that equipment continues to increase.

Another simple fact is that the cost of steel for that equipment is at an all time high, while fuel prices continue to rise. Insurance costs have also increased, while we continue to try and do more with what we have.

Also, trail permit sales were down 7 percent last year, which means we had less money to deal with from the start. We sold 170,000 trail permits last year, and $33.53 of every permit went on the ground. I think that is a credit to the program and the people involved in it.

It’s important that we stress that the majority of this state’s 68 grant sponsors are volunteer club members who spend countless hours maintaining trails, chasing leases and completing paperwork. If we had to pay 100 percent of the labor costs involved, we would not have a snowmobile program. You would not have smooth trails.

The Cold Hard Truth

We now reimburse our grant sponsors $5.27 per mile. If you take that $45 trail permit fee and divide it by that $5.27 per mile, I think you will see it’s not such a bad deal. I mean you can load your sleds, travel to where you ride, and go 8.54 miles before your trail permit has been used up in terms of grant sponsor reimbursement. I don’t know many snowmobilers who only ride 8.54 miles a season. Do you?

Under the trail permit fee law passed in 2008, the cost of trail permits in Michigan will stay at $45 a year through 2015. In October 2016 “and every fifth year there after,” the cost of a trail permit will reflect the “cumulative percentage change in consumer price index.” This means that trail permits will increase every five years. The increase will be based on the “cumulative” cost of living over the previous five years.

Please keep in mind the funds from trail permit sales and a small portion of the return we see from our gas tax are the only two funding mechanisms we have for our snowmobile program.

During the 2010-11 season 372,906.7 miles were groomed. Fuel to groom those miles came in at $770,460.14. The total cost to sign, brush, maintain, groom, purchase equipment and fuel was $1,704,183.62.
 
Thanks for posting this. Those are some large numbers. Now everyone can see where their $45 goes and why it is needed to keep the program going.
 

xsledder

Active member
Are you sure you sold 170,000 permits last year with $33.53 going towards grooming? I checked the math quite a few times on the computer and a calculator and that comes out to $5,700,100.00. If only $1,704,183.62 was the total cost for last year, where did the other $4 mill. go? Please let me know if I have something wrong because a trail permit should cost a little over $10 a sled to cover the costs and not $35. Something just doesn't add up. 170,000 permits sold last year just sounds a little excessive, and if they did sell that many, then $45 for a permit is fleecing the public.
 

craigrev

Member
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2011-2012 Snowmobile Trail Permit Fee Increase

With its unique combination of abundant annual snowfall, exciting terrain and extensive trail network, Michigan is a popular destination for snowmobilers far and wide. More than 6,400 miles of designated snowmobile trails criss-cross state forests, three national forests and many acres of privately owned lands. In fact, Michigan is one of only a handful of states that offer a large network of groomed and signed snowmobile trails. Michigan's snowmobile trail network is successful because of the unique relationship that exists between the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) and our partners. The DNR provides grants to local snowmobile partners who, in turn, are responsible for the grooming and maintenance of the trails.

Snowmobiling is a Michigan tradition enjoyed by many. The DNR and our 68 snowmobile trail sponsors are committed to keeping our trails as safe as possible for every snowmobiler, but it takes dedicated resources to make that happen.

The snowmobile trail permit fee for 2011-12 is $45.

A state law signed in 2008 provides for incremental increases in snowmobile trail fees. The Michigan Snowmobile Association (MSA) advocated and supported incremental trail permit increases in 2008. MSA sent out a survey to snowmobilers in and out of state, and the DNR was pleased to see that 80 percent supported the increase.

Fee structure under the law is as follows:

$25 in 2008 season
$35 in 2009 and 2010 seasons
$45 in 2011 through 2015 seasons
Revenue from the sale of every trail permit fee is allocated by law as follows:

50 cents for department administrative costs
$1 for agent selling the permit
The balance deposited in the recreational snowmobile trail improvement subaccount
When it comes to keeping Michigan's trails safe and groomed, a little goes a long way. This fee increase is a way for every snowmobiler to do his or her part ? a reasonable expense toward providing season-long access to miles and miles of magical Michigan trails.

Why Increase the Fee?

The fee increase is necessary to:

Offset increasing snowmobile trail sponsor costs (such as fuel, engineering services and insurance) to maintain the designated snowmobile trail network
Fund long-term trail infrastructure needs, such as bridges and culverts
What is the Fee Used For?

The DNR annually issues grants from the recreational snowmobile trail improvement subaccount to non-profit snowmobile trail sponsors. The following are for 2010-2011:

Equipment - $1,876,717
Grooming - $1,704,184
Special Maintenance (filling and grading, bridge repair and replacement, culverts, new development, etc.) - $1,546,548
Miscellaneous Expenses (comp insurance, liability insurance, land lease payments, snowplowing and portable toilets at trailheads) - $765,501
Brushing and Signing - $576,054
Major Repair of Equipment - $196,615
Signs and Posts - $95,726
Groomer Utility - $94,200
Contingency - $69,000
Fuel Adjustment - $63,394
Holdback for Next Year - $800,000
Number of designated snowmobile miles in 2010-11: 6,407 miles. This is slightly less than 2009-10 (6,412 miles). Although there were new trails approved and developed, some miles were lost due to trail closures, reroutes and lost private landowner permissions. These do fluctuate up or down slightly every year.

Number of miles groomed in 2010-11: 372,906

Number of permits sold in 2010-11: 164,003

Total permit dollars received: $5,543,118

2011 snowmobile grant spending authority: $8,004,000



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polarisrider1

New member
Are you sure you sold 170,000 permits last year with $33.53 going towards grooming? I checked the math quite a few times on the computer and a calculator and that comes out to $5,700,100.00. If only $1,704,183.62 was the total cost for last year, where did the other $4 mill. go? Please let me know if I have something wrong because a trail permit should cost a little over $10 a sled to cover the costs and not $35. Something just doesn't add up. 170,000 permits sold last year just sounds a little excessive, and if they did sell that many, then $45 for a permit is fleecing the public.
All aspects related to grooming. see post #4
 

bobsledder

New member
$45/00 is a bargan for good well maintained trails. I have been blessed with 1735 miles in the UP, this = 2.6 cents per mile for trail "rent". Everyone wants less cost, however the value of good trails means alot to my backside.
 

trailblazer

New member
Hmmmmmmmm,

The way I see it, Michigan buys all new equipment and groomers every year??.......To a toon of----$1876717. + $1704184.= $3580901.00 You could buy 15 tractors with saucey tracks and sno-boss groomers every year with that kind of money. What happens to all the year old equipment that the state of Michigan owns?

(Wisconsin should buy it.......they must sell it cheap!)
 
Spent $180.00 for our 4 sleds and have yet to put a mile on in the lower do to lack of snow. I learned my lesson. Don't buy you r trail permit until there is plenty of snow. Wish I could get reimbursed. That won't happen. They should have plenty of money left over from this season for next, maybe the permit will go down next year, NOT.
 

tomx

Member
If any of you don't like the cost of the trail permit just head up to Canada. You'll find the Michigan pass realatively cheap. I purchased my pass this year and only put 500 miles on Michigan trail. Due to health issues it appears that I will not make it up again this year and I can say I definitely got my moneys worth. It's up to each individual to decide if it is worth it to pay but I'll gladly pay the $45 for the quality of trails that are provided. Thanks to all the volunteers that work tirelessly to provide world class trails.
 

trailblazer

New member
Sorry....


I have to correct my last post.

$1876717.00 a year, you could only buy 8 new tractors and drags every year, and that's when the trail permits were $35.00

My question is (what do they do with there 2-3 year old equipment?) They must just give it away.

Then you all still have to remember the people that live in Michigan still have to reg. there sleds too. Where's all that money go?
 

trailblazer

New member
I think it's a great idea if all the money from snowmobiling would stay in snowmobiling in Wisconsin and Michigan. I don't always think that's the case.
 

xsledder

Active member
If any of you don't like the cost of the trail permit just head up to Canada. You'll find the Michigan pass realatively cheap. I purchased my pass this year and only put 500 miles on Michigan trail. Due to health issues it appears that I will not make it up again this year and I can say I definitely got my moneys worth. It's up to each individual to decide if it is worth it to pay but I'll gladly pay the $45 for the quality of trails that are provided. Thanks to all the volunteers that work tirelessly to provide world class trails.

I might be all wet but the way I see it, Wisconsin does just as good of a job for less money. Just sayin'.
 

RVR RNR

Member
Wis. does an excellent job w/less funds because more population = more volunteers. We are also in need of more funding which is why you should all support the CAP/STEP legsislation that is being introduced this month at the Capitol. For more info.,see the AWSC website.
 

xsledder

Active member
...We are also in need of more funding which is why you should all support the CAP/STEP legsislation that is being introduced this month at the Capitol. For more info.,see the AWSC website.

So, their lowering the cost for the registration from $30 to $15 every two years. But everyone has to buy a permit for $35, but it will cost you $15 if you join a Wisconsin snowmobile club. I'm I understanding the jist (or is it gist frnash?) of it correctly?

Will the club get more money if you pay the $35 or join the club?
 

frnash

Active member
… I'm I understanding the jist (or is it gist frnash?) of it correctly?

Will the club get more money if you pay the $35 or join the club?
If "I'm I" understanding the question, you (click → ) "jist" (I like their examples!) need to ask, and I answer ( :) ): "gist" it is!
 

mride460

New member
I think it's a great idea if all the money from snowmobiling would stay in snowmobiling in Wisconsin and Michigan. I don't always think that's the case.

Cannot speak for Wisconsin but in Michigan, the law states that the funds in the snowmobile trail account are only to be used for snowmobile trail related costs. It cannot be used by the DNR for any other reasons including being transfered to their general fund.
So basically. Our money is controlled by or trails committee for our trails only.
 

xsledder

Active member
If "I'm I" understanding the question, you (click → ) "jist" (I like their examples!) need to ask, and I answer ( :) ): "gist" it is!

Sorry for the typo "I" and thanks for the clarification of "gist". Not a word I use in my everyday writing.
 

Cat Woman

New member
I am still shocked... when my group and I went to the Houghton Walmart this season to buy 11 trail permits the young man told us to "just ride the backroads and you won't get stopped". I then said "no, we prefer to support the grooming operations". He laughed, he actually laughed! We didn't mind paying for out permits, enjoyed not having to worry about getting stopped and didn't have to worry about riding unknown backroads and risk tresspassing and pi$$ing someone off. If thats no a bad influence I don't know what is. Unbelievable...
 

durphee

Well-known member
Thanks for the information, it really helps to show the economics of snowmobiling. I personally think $45 was a good deal and ill pay more if it goes up. I put on 411 miles in the UP, so it was around 0.9 cents per mile. Quite a bargain IMO. To be honest, I am an avid boater in the summer so realistically snowmobiling is a cheap sport comparitively speaking.
 
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