Iphone GPS

5_spot

Member
Prop, for your knowledge-

100% wrong.
Some phone triangulate towers to show location. iphones can triangulate if you have a signal OR lock in to satellites just like a standalone gps. I have a full detailed map of us & canada including waypoints, POI's etc, INSTALLED on my device. No type of data connection is required whatsoever.
In early august I was in the northwoods with my phone capabilities turned OFF to conserve battery (so as to not continually search for signal)and compared GPS results to my handheld Garmin 60cxs.
Accuracy was very near equal, with the garmin being a little faster to lock in and movement. Map detail and info was far superior on the iPhone software I have installed.

The GPS chip of iPhone 3G and 3GS is an Infineon PMB 2525 Hammerhead II chip with -160 dbm.

The Garmin 205-305-405 chip is the Sirft Star III with -159 dbm.

The iPhone's GPS slightly better than popular Garmins, however since it has a much smaller antenna and it's stuffed in there with a #g radio, wi-fi, bluetooth, etc. performance is slightly affected.

Like I said, I've had many and I find the iPhone far superior to all. In regards to buisness, the only thing my BB could do that this couldn't, is make/receive phone calls via wi-fi without the use of an outside program. That was a great feature. I don't know why AT&T will allow that on the BB & not the iPhone. I've found ways to make many other things work, but not that yet.

I too am just looking to make sure the correct information is out there & yours was very inaccurate.

The user has a lot to do with it. I've shown other iPhone users my phone compared to theirs, and it's night & day. I will say it didn't come out of the box comprable to the others, but thats what I like about it, far more versatile for tweaking to what you want it to do than any other, kinda like my sled.
 

propjockey

New member
I guess we'll agree to disagree. No problem.

I too "Tweak" my phone more than most people. For cry-yi, I'm running an OS from Vodaphone Germany on mine! I guess the simple fact is that it would be less than practical to use a cell phone as a GPS device. My initial reply to harleyguy, again, was to let him know he could use at&t Navigator as a last ditch effort to prevent from getting lost.

My Bold runs that program like a rocket, albeit I live in the suburbs of Chicago and data is more than abundant. And while it is a subscription service, I use it weekly in my travels to job sites. Works great and serves me well.

To each his own.

-J-
 

5_spot

Member
I agree, mobile phone not the best device as a primary GPS. I use it more of a backup.

I just wanted to point out that there are programs (apps) available to install which do not require a data connection.

I looked, and there are a few "tweaks" available for your bold which would do the same thing. Allowing you to cancel that subscription!


Think Snow!
 

ibendwire

Member
I have been reading this thread with great interest as i am in the market for a new phone and have been considering both the BB and the iphone. It sounds to me that one is not inherently better than the other. One may be better than another for a particular person and their intended use.

One question I have is that I heard from people that with AT&T there can be alot of dead spots were you just can't use your phone. Is this something people experiance and if so is AT&T getting better at reducing the amount of areas with no reception?

Thanks for all the information on the differences amoung the cell phones. I will certainly continue to check this thread for more info.
 

beakjones

Member
5spot, how do you like your 60csx? We've had one for a couple of years now and I love it. Barometric altimeter is where it's at! I don't believe any phones have that? I'm not sure but I can't tell you how useful that 60csx is for us on the trails. 2 months 'til trails open!
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
I have the 60csx. Bought it at the end of last season so I haven't used it on the sled.

What is the barometric altimeter and why is that useful on the trails?
 

blabath

Member
I LOVE my Motorola Bag Phone. 5 Watts of awesome power. Beautiful Leatherlike Black Bag. Doubles as a paperweight. Battery last for months, not days or hours. It only cost about Two grand when I bought it. Not much for apps tho. Oh, yeah... the whole lack of analog coverage thing is kinda a pain in the butt so I only travel where I can still get analog, and THAT saves me gas.
How could there be a better phone than that?
 

frnash

Active member
<font color="0000ff">beakjones:
"Barometric altimeter is where it's at!"</font>

As long as it is set it to a current, local altimeter (barometer) setting,
such as this from the Houghton County (MI) airport (CMX):

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If you don't have a current local altimeter/barometer setting, it can be seriously misleading!
 

frnash

Active member
In case anyone is curious, the Barometer setting shown in the picture above is the local atmospheric pressure at the indicated location, corrected to standard sea level reference pressure.

When your device is set to that value, it will then measure the local atmospheric pressure at your location, and will display the difference in the two values as your altitude above sea level.
 

beakjones

Member
I actually don't set mine to the local pressure. But I do check it (every use) to my location on the topo maps and it has never been more than 20 feet off which is very impressive. Compare that to my buddies watch that consistently shows us at 2000+ feet elevation in Chicago-land... lol
 
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