Long shot

[attack_06]

This maybe far fetched just wondering if there's anything foreseen in the future when "the flip" may occure or is it possible we may never see that this year

 

[jd]

I would not be looking for a "flip" this season. At least a sustaining one. I suspect we might see a period of some decent winter weather, but probably on the order of 20-25 days.

-John

 

[attack_06]

Wow that's not good at all mite just leave the sleds and trailer in storage this year I'm sure not in a hurry to go get them maybe by mid January

 

[mburchart]

I wonder if the lack of snow will stop people from buying their trail pass this year.. I already have mine purchased and on my sled ready to go. i wonder how much money is lost to the local economies due to the lack of snow.

- John in years past with the current forecast and what we are seeing so far this year does it compare to the last big el nino of 97/98?

 

[jccams]

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[jd]

- John in years past with the current forecast and what we are seeing so far this year does it compare to the last big el nino of 97/98?

I tend to shy away from using analog years too much, but there are certainly similarities to conditions that year and right now.

I also want to clear something up for everyone. I did not mean to say that we would only have 20-25 days of winter this season, but rather a period of 20-25 days where things could really rock.

-John

 

[Skylar]

I tend to shy away from using analog years too much, but there are certainly similarities to conditions that year and right now.

I also want to clear something up for everyone. I did not mean to say that we would only have 20-25 days of winter this season, but rather a period of 20-25 days where things could really rock.

-John

Ok, good. I was starting to go into a deep depression!

 

[Deleted member 10829]

Me too Skylar!!

 

[momoney2123]

I wonder if the lack of snow will stop people from buying their trail pass this year.. I already have mine purchased and on my sled ready to go. i wonder how much money is lost to the local economies due to the lack of snow.

- John in years past with the current forecast and what we are seeing so far this year does it compare to the last big el nino of 97/98?

November 97-98 was cold, this year very warm. Ensos dont match. Bulk of warm water was directly off south american coast in 97, now its way off coast in enso 3-4. Also the water in north pacific very different. Not a good comparison. If i remember that el nino peaked in mid winter, this el nino has already peaked. Let it snow!

 

[attack_06]

Where do you read this elnino has already peaked in the last couple months seems to me it's just getting started

 

[whitedust]

Pretty much everywhere you check this El Nino has been going since August should start backing off soon in 30 days or so....then hopefully on the cool down side..... it s what it is can't rush ma nature.

 

[momoney2123]

Where do you read this elnino has already peaked in the last couple months seems to me it's just getting started

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[Bullitt69]

- John in years past with the current forecast and what we are seeing so far this year does it compare to the last big el nino of 97/98?

I remember the winter of 97/98 in the U.P. very clearly. I was living in Big Bay at the time with my now wife. It started out with a bang in late October, I remember everyone getting excited and running the trails even though it was probably illegal. Then, it all melted. December the same thing. Got a good amount of snow, then a thaw. Then again, again, and so on. So, as John's forecast today promises a good amount of snow over the horizon, I will betcha there will be more often thaw periods between the times it's Rockin.
Don't be discouraged though - there will be snow!
Just my 2 cents...
Steve